What if the sad choice is saving the environment or human beings? 

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From: LizR <[email protected]>
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Sent: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating



On 4 March 2014 06:48, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:



On Sat, Mar 1, 2014  Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote:





 > With power stations you don't need to worry about the same factors (energy 
 > density etc) but you do need to worry about other things 





And one of those other things you need to worry about is dimwitted and 
hypocritical environmentalists who don't want power stations of ANY sort built, 
ANYWHERE regardless of if they are renewable or non-renewable:

*At the urging of environmentalist groups Sen. Feinstein of California has 
tried to put 500,000 acres of  solar drenched land in the Mojave desert off 
limits to any solar development.

*Environmentalists tried everything they could think of to block a 2.1 billion 
dollar solar plant in Ivanpah California.


* The same people are trying to block a 680 million dollar solar plant in Owens 
Valley.

* They were successful in killing a solar power station in Fresno County 
California that would have supplied enough greenhouse free energy to power 
75,000 homes. 



* Environmentalists are trying their best to stop Obama from extending permits 
to build wind farms from 5 years to 30 because they kill little birdies.


*And to quote directly from their website:


 "The Sierra Club opposes geothermal leasingor development in the following 
areas:
Lands included in or adjacent to federal, state, or local park systems or in 
wildliferefuges and management areas;
Areas known to provide habitat for rare or endangered species;
Areas designated as valuable for archaeological remains;
Units of the National Wilderness preservation System;
Units of the Wild and Scenic Rivers System;
Units of the National Trails System;
Areas reserved by the Secretary of the Interior or the Secretary of Agriculture 
forecological, scenic, natural, wildlife, geological, educational, historical, 
or scientificvalue, including Primitive Areas, Roadless Areas, Natural Areas, 
and Pioneer Areas;
Areas of de facto wilderness under study by the Secretary of the Interior or 
theSecretary of Agriculture for reservation as part of one of the preservation 
systems listedabove; and
Areas of de facto wilderness which are the subject of intensive study by 
recognizedcitizen groups or coalitions, resulting in formal proposals to the 
agencies and/orCongress for reservation as part of one of the preservation 
systems listed above."

As I said the prefers solution to the energy crises according to some is to 
freeze to death in the dark.





Well I consider myself an environmentalist and I am very much in favour of 
solar power stations unless there was is a desperately important reason not to 
site one in a particular place. Otherwise it's just NIMBYism ("not in my 
backyard"). You have to weigh up the costs and benefits, of course, and in some 
cases solar might not be the best solution - but as you say, we do need power 
stations! No way do I want to go back to medieval times, I don't even want to 
go back to pre-2011 (my daughter likes her iPad! :-)



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