On Monday, March 17, 2014, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:02:08 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On 14 March 2014 13:12, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2QXQu-HGE >>> >>> A brief, handy rebuttal to materialistic views of consciousness. I would >>> go further, and say that information, even though it is immaterial in its >>> conception, is still derived from the principles of object interaction. >>> Even when forms and functions are divorced from any particular physical >>> substance, they are still tethered to the third person omniscient view - >>> artifacts of communication *about* rather *appreciation of*. Real >>> experiences are not valued just because they inform us about something or >>> other, they are valued because of their intrinsic aesthetic and semantic >>> content. It’s not even content, it is the experience itself. Information >>> must be made evident through sensory participation, or it is nothing at all. >>> >>> The thing is, this happens in the brain as well. You look at something, >> neurons fire, and there is no obvious reason why that should result in a >> particular sensation rather than another, or any sensation at all. And yet >> it does. If it's magic, then why can't the same magic happen with the >> computer? If it isn't magic, but a natural effect, then why can't the same >> natural effect happen with the computer? >> > > For the same reason that words on a page can't write a book. Computers > host meaningless patterns which we use to represent ideas that we find > significant. The patterns are not even patterns on their own, just the > presence of billions of disconnected micro-phenomenal states. > But if you look at a brain the patterns in it are no more meaningful than the patterns in a computer, and the matter in it is no more meaningful than the matter in a computer. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
