On 07 Apr 2014, at 04:33, LizR wrote:
I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being
immediately hijacked by religion - surely the possibility of crows
exhibiting a similar type of intelligence to humans (albeit in a
lesser degree) is a more interesting subject than some ideas people
made up millennia ago in an attempt to explain a universe they had
no comprehension of?
Hmmm....
Intellectuals, millennia ago, had less prejudices in theology than us.
In the theology matter, we have become obscurantist, imo. They were
much more modern on this than us. We are blinded by the materialist
technologic aristotelian prowess, but close to conceptually, if not
practically, eliminate persons and person values. Even the climate
problem is probably a symptom on this, among many others.
Just in case anyone's interested, this was the article.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/060606-crows_2.html
I'm sure my friend here likes it!
You can find many impressive YT vido on rows and raven which
illustrates well the article:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVaITA7eBZE (3m19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUqrBWli_D4 (48m16)
Bruno
On 7 April 2014 11:38, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/6/2014 3:18 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Samiya Illias,
you took up an honorable position and will be rewarded for it in
the afterlife - "if there is an afterlife".
A friend (almost reaching the title of Catholic Priest) said in a
similar discussion: It means so little mental investment to BELIVE
and the reward is so great (eternal bliss) that it wood be foolish
not to go it's way.
Hmmm? Eternal bliss while singing hymns and worshipping a despotic
egomanical superbeing, for eternity... Sounds like being drugged. I
think I'll pass.
Brent
"Now then in Earth these people cannot stand much church - an
hour and a quarter is the limit and they draw the line at once a
week. That is to say, Sunday. One day in seven; and even then
they do not look forward to it with longing. And so - consider
what their heaven provides for them: "church" that lasts forever,
and Sabbath that has not end! They quickly weary of this brief
hebdomadal Sabbath here, yet they long for that eternal one;
they dream of it, they talk about it, they think they think they
are going to enjoy it - with all their simple hearts they think
they think they are going to be happy in it!
It is because they do not think at all; they only think they
think.
--- Mark Twain, Letters from Earth
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