On 5/15/2014 10:04 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
So do you think there is some merit in Kauffman's conclusions? Do you think it is
possible to reason about "the Void"? Or meaningful? Or useful?
Sure, it's possible to reason about anything. Whether you can arrive at something useful
is an open question - one can but try. I like the late Norm Levitt's remark, "What is
there? EVERYTHING! So what isn't there? NOTHING!"
Brent
In the article, Kauffman seems to telegraph right at the beginning that everything that
will follow is an exercise in deception, thanks to the old Taoistic chestnut that "the
Void, when named, is not the Void." And yet, formal reasoning seems to lead us to some
kind of meaningful conclusions about it regardless.
On Friday, May 16, 2014 12:53:38 AM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 5/15/2014 9:30 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
I don't get it. Please explain?
Are you making a joke, something on the order of "both of these guys are
spouting
such metaphysical hogwash that the debate between them would be an even
bigger
yawnfest than their articles in particular"?
It was a tongue in cheek remark. I wouldn't say Kauffmann is spouting
hogwash,
though Craig certainly does. But there's a symmetry of style. Both draw
deep
conclusions from just words...but not compatible conclusions.
Brent
Or is it some specific aspect of what each of them profess to believe? I
know that
Craig is a theologian who argues in favor of the Kalam cosmological
argument for
god's existence. I submitted the link to the Kauffman article just because
it
seemed to be talking about a lot of the stuff that is frequently discussed
here,
but doesn't appear to grind any particular theological axe. So I don't
really see
the connection you are making (or the irony/humor/sarcasm you might/might
not have
intended).
I can hardly wait to hear the Kauffman vs William Lane Craig debate.
Brent
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