On Monday, May 19, 2014 12:23:58 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: > > On 17 May 2014 11:05, meekerdb <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On 5/16/2014 2:41 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 16 May 2014 17:14, meekerdb <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: >> >>> On 5/15/2014 10:04 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote: >>> >>> So do you think there is some merit in Kauffman's conclusions? Do you >>> think it is possible to reason about "the Void"? Or meaningful? Or useful? >>> >>> >>> Sure, it's possible to reason about anything. Whether you can arrive >>> at something useful is an open question - one can but try. I like the late >>> Norm Levitt's remark, "What is there? EVERYTHING! So what isn't there? >>> NOTHING!" >>> >> >> Or one could paraphrase Russell Standish - What is there? NOTHING! - >> Which is EVERYTHING! >> >> I like Russell's version, which creates more of a *frisson*. Although I >> assume Levitt is claiming the existence of a multiverse (EVERYTHING implies >> that of course). >> >> >> I doubt that, Norm was rather a fan of Bohmian QM. >> > > I had the chance to talk to Jim Al-Kalili at the Auckland Writers Festival > and I was surprised to find his favourite interpretation of QM is also the > Bohm one, which hasn't been coming up much in Max Tegmark's polls of > physicists recently. (I believe it's the multiverse but with one universe > "more real" than all the others, or something similar). > I love that guy. He is fare and way my favourite ever explainer of science...as in the documentaries he's made. He's so pure and he sort of bursts with true meant appreciation for the scientific pioneers...he can't help smiling when he speaks of some of them and their amazing exploits. He's the best, I think the smartest as well. And totally unselfpossessed. The others can't touch him. Either they barely can conceal their contempt for the scientific geniuses - like Deutsch in my view - or they are full of themselves to the point of it become a distraction for the viewer. Like what's his name, wonder's of the solar system guy. That being said, he's alright, I'm going to see him in a week or two. But Jimmy boy is a star.
> > Obviously I didn't have much to go on with Mr Levitt, just the quote you > supplied, but ISTM "What is there? EVERYTHING!" could be taken to mean that > everything that can exist exists (i.e. Everett). An alternative reading is > that he is saying he thinks the universe is infinite, which also gives us > everything that can exist. I'm not sure how else one can interpret > "EVERYTHING" especially when it's emphasised like that. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

