From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Quentin Anciaux Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't 2014-05-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <[email protected]>: On 5/19/2014 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: These are valid criticisms that are very much not administrative nature but cut right to the core [pun intended] of a world in which a multitude of thorium U233 breeder reactors proliferate widely. There is a risk that this unintentionally leads to a proliferation of U233 (which can be relatively easily be chemically separated out from the thorium fluoride salt mix and purified into U233 metal) U233 isn't likely to proliferate because it is always mixed with U232 (which it can produce by decay) and U232, through its decay chain, produces intense gamma radiation. So it can only be handled and processed remotely. Even suicide bombers wouldn't last long enough to transport it very far. And the U232 makes it difficult to turn the U233 into a bomb because it's presence tends to make the bomb low yield. When making a U233 bomb they try to refine out all the U232. Sure, and granted. U233 is on most scores a poor bomb material. However, it can and in fact has been made into a bomb, and that is concerning to me. Sure it is a deadly material to handle and anyone handling it would surely be dead. Fanatics are willing to make that sacrifice of their CFUs (i.e. cannon fodder units). Once assembled a bomb can be encased in lead, making a lot easier to handle. The technical ease, in terms of not having to master the difficult challenge of building a carefully vectored implosion device, is a considerable factor that cannot be ignored. So what if it low yield… sure from a military standpoint, but I shudder to imagine the effects of just one such low yield high fallout bomb on the major metro area of your choice. Does it matter, in this scenario, if superior bomb materials exist and which are used by all weapons states (declared and undeclared)? Furthermore the very deadliness of U232, which you correctly say would make handling the U233 very difficult is a reason in itself to want to ensure that there exist the highest levels of safeguards in order to keep these deadly (potentially weaponizable) materials accounted for and secured. For this reason I am opposed to the proposals for widely scattered small scale nuclear batteries (of whatever kind) – it makes it impossible to keep out of nefarious hands. Chris Thanks, but it's Chris which has written your quote... but what you say is what I remembered reading about U233 difficult extraction. Quentin Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't
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