If you identify a volume and remove everything within it, you would be left with empty space in the volume. That is what I mean by empty space and you could not curve that space. But I can agree that Coulomb force waves completely fill all of the space within our Universe. If the volume I’m talking about were surrounded by an aluminum sphere, the electrons in the aluminum would be continuously producing Coulomb forces which would be expanding at the speed of light through the volume of the otherwise empty sphere.
Let me skip to your last point. What do you mean by: There is no Coulomb force? Did you ever comb your hair on a dry day? I don’t believe in virtual photons. I do believe in entrons which is the energy-mass portion of each real photon. The gamma ray photon that exits the nucleus of Co-60 is a gamma ray entron inside the nucleus. That gamma ray photon can be absorbed inside the nucleus of another atom and it can exist there again as a gamma ray entron. The ratio of each photon’s wavelength to the diameter of its entron is 1431, gamma ray entrons can fit in nuclei. I like my description of Black Holes better than yours. We know that the Black Hole at the center of our galaxy somehow controls to paths of about 100 billion stars and their planetary systems. We also know that our Black Hole is consuming portions of our galaxy. So what is happening? I say the Black Hole is destroying protons and anti-protons to release their neutrino entrons in the form of neutrino photons that provide the gravity of our galaxy. The neutrino photon has and energy mass of 9.28 X 108 eV (1.65 X 10-27 kg) almost equal to the masses of the each proton and anti-proton. This is major conversion of mass to energy. It is almost 100 percent. Fission and fusion pale by comparison. But think about it. You need a lot of energy to hold a galaxy together. My model predicts that a Monster Black Hole will develop near the center of our Universe sometime in the future and when our Universe is about 50 billion years old, the Monster Black Hole will grow massive enough to produce gravitational attraction to the galaxies at the edges of our Universe. At that time our Universe will begin to contract with all galaxies headed toward the monster. Then for about 50 billion years all galaxies will be accelerated continuously. Their velocities will increase faster and faster and faster until most are consumed by the monster. Galaxies from near the edge of our Universe will reach velocities many thousand times the speed of light. The Monster Black Hole will then explode in a Big Bang explosion which will be the death of our Universe and the birth of our successor universe. At the time of the explosion some galaxies will not have yet reached the region of the Monster Black Hole, so they will merely pass through it in all directions at velocities many thousand times the speed of light to lead an inflation period of our successor universe. A triangle drawn on a sphere will be curved. Curving space makes no sense to me. Curving Coulomb grids is natural since Coulomb grids are a product of charged particles that everything is made of. Every charged particle in our Universe is continuously producing Coulomb forces that travel at the speed of light. I admit to a little repetition. Our theories are different. I don’t claim to be an expert on the tau and the muon. However, I believe they are both merely high-energy electrons, which is an electron that has captured a high-energy entron. They are extremely unstable and I understand they decay to electrons. The anti’s decay to positrons. I don’t believe in the old-fashion neutrino. My model predicts that every “thing’ in our universe must be made from tronnies. I can’t think of how we could make the old fashion neutrino using tronnies. My guess is (I really am guessing) that some of the “detections” of neutrinos is really detections of neutrino photons. John R. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TRONNIES - SPACE On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > It looks like we are fairly close on time but not on space. Space and time can not be considered separately, they are inextricably linked. > Space is total nothingness. That is what all physicists thought in the year 1900 and that is what NO physicist thinks in the year 2014, we've made progress in the last century or so. Whatever space is one thing we know for sure is that it's never empty, it's always a seething mass of activity with virtual particles constantly popping into and out of existence. And this fact can be proven experimentally! Consider the Casimir Effect. Quantum Mechanics says that in empty space particles such as photons of light can pop into existence from nothing, but only for a very short time; in accordance with the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle the more energetic the new virtual photon is the shorter the time it is allowed to exist. The Casimir Effect is due to a quantum mechanical consequence of these electromagnetic virtual photons. If you place two flat uncharged mirrors close together then there can not be virtual photons of every wavelength in the vacuum between the mirrors as there are outside, because some photons will interfere destructively; that is to say that as the virtual photons bounce between the mirrors some will be out of phase with each other and cancel each other out. Thus there are more virtual particles in the vacuum outside the mirrors pushing them together than there are between the mirrors pushing them apart. So the mirrors will attract each other. This force was predicted to exist in 1948 but it wasn't until 1997 that it was confirmed in the lab to actually exist with exactly the force that Casimir said it would have. Let me be clear about this, without virtual particles this measurement would have been different, there would be no force and the mirrors would stay put. And so whatever armchair philosophers say there is no way space can be total nothingness. Virtual particles are also the reason Black Holes will eventually evaporate. Just like everywhere else right at the edge of the event horizon of the Black Hole pairs of virtual particles, electrons and anti-electrons (charge must always be conserved) will pop into existence; sometimes one of the particles is just inside the event horizon and its brother just outside, so one gets dragged into the hole while the other breaks free and transforms from a virtual particle into a real one that can be detected by instruments far from the hole. But that detectable particle had real mass and mass must be conserved, so for the accounting to be correct the Black Hole must have lost mass. > It can’t be curved. Why not? All curvature means is that a triangle might not contain 180 degrees, and what law of logic is violated by triangles having more than 180 degrees, or less than 180 degrees? A triangle is 3 points connected by 3 lines of the shortest possible length. So a triangle on the surface of a 3D sphere must consist of curved lines and have more than 180 degrees, and one drawn on the surface of a saddle must also consist of curved lines but this time the triangle has less than 180 degrees. The surface of a 4D sphere (or saddle) is 3D space, so that 3D space could be curved, and with the discovery of gravitational lensing we know for a fact that there are places in our universe where space is indeed curved. > Low-energy photons pass through large distances of intergalactic space more > efficiently than neutrino photons. There are electron neutrinos and muon neutrinos and Tau neutrinos and all 3 have their corresponding anti-neutrinos, but there is no such thing as photon neutrinos. > Large masses can definitely produce a curvature in the mass’s Coulomb grid. There is no such thing as the Coulomb force and there is no such thing as the Coulomb grid. 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