On 12 Jun 2014, at 18:28, [email protected] wrote:

I am well aware of the two slit experiment.  You can't send tronnies
one-by-one anywhere. They exist in twosomes and threesomes as electrons,
positrons or entrons.  The entron is the energy-mass of each photon.
Photons are self propelled by internal Coulomb forces of their entrons.
In the two-slit experiment the entron goes through one slit but its
Coulomb force wave goes through both slits.

Like Bohm and de Broglie. Today, this is known to introduce non local physical action.




My theory does not deal with consciousness.

It might the grain of dust which forces us to revise our opinion on Plato, on mind and physics.

I argue that if the brain works like a machine, that is mainly in a local causal way ("no magic"), then Plato is right and the physical reality is the border of the universal mind, i.e. the mind of the universal machine (Turing, Church, Post, ...).

I am afraid that the "Ross theory" is still in the frame of taking Aristotle theology for granted.

Bruno





On 08 Jun 2014, at 20:33, John Ross wrote:

I am not trying to prove quantum mechanics incorrect.  I am trying
to prove my theory is correct.  If my theory is correct, and quantum
mechanics is inconsistent withmy theory then quantum mechanics may
very well be incorrect.  There is also a possibility that on some
issues the two theories may both be correct.

QM is the only theory (or scheme of theories) which has not been
refuted for more than a century. All others theories in physics have
been shown wrong in less than few years, when they are not suspected
to be wrong at the start (wrong does not imply "not useful" in some
context).

So my question, which has been already asked, is simply what happens
when you send tronnies, one by one, (or compounds of tronnies) on a
plate with two close small holes? (have you heard and think about
Young two slits experience?).




You lost me with Turing emulable.

We can come back on this later, but as you seem not so much interested
in consciousness, that might be out of your topic, at least for now.
Taking consciousness into account + the hypothesis that the brain is a
natural computer might force us to make physics into a sort of
illusion entirely reducible to the study of machine's psychology or
theology. See my URL or post, if interested.

Bruno





JR

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On 07 Jun 2014, at 22:18, John Ross wrote:


I do not explain consciousness.

Fair enough. You are not searching to explain "everything".
Unfortunately, consciousness has something to say on the very origin
of the beliefs in the physical laws. You are still an Aristotelian
theologian (taking matter for primitive or granted with the naive
identity relation (brain/mind)). To defend that relation, between
brain and mind, you will need some special sort of actual
infinities. With the thesis that a brain (or body) is Turing
emulable, you can still attach consciousness to a brain, but you
cannot attach a brain to consciousness, you can only attach an
infinity of relative universal machine states to a consciousness.
This might explain the many-world aspect of quantum mechanics. It is
not yet clear to me what is your position on quantum mechanics, or
your explanation of the two slits experiment.

Bruno



Jr

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On 7 June 2014 04:12, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
There is a theory of everything - my theory, "The Ross Model".  You
are a smart person and you are extremely interested in this subject,
so sooner or later you will get around to reading my book.  And I
predict you will be forced to agree with me.

I haven't yet managed to discover what the ontology of the RM is -
is the idea "primitive materialism" - that space, time, matter and
energy are fundamental? Do you attempt to explain consciousness?

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