I have not attempted to correlate my theory with the thinking of Plato and Aristotle. I would be happy to discuss this with you (my cell phone number is 858-353-0997) or to consider your specific thoughts as to how my theory relates to the thinking of these fellows.
John Ross > > On 12 Jun 2014, at 18:28, [email protected] wrote: > >> I am well aware of the two slit experiment. You can't send tronnies >> one-by-one anywhere. They exist in twosomes and threesomes as >> electrons, >> positrons or entrons. The entron is the energy-mass of each photon. >> Photons are self propelled by internal Coulomb forces of their >> entrons. >> In the two-slit experiment the entron goes through one slit but its >> Coulomb force wave goes through both slits. > > Like Bohm and de Broglie. Today, this is known to introduce non local > physical action. > > > >> >> My theory does not deal with consciousness. > > It might the grain of dust which forces us to revise our opinion on > Plato, on mind and physics. > > I argue that if the brain works like a machine, that is mainly in a > local causal way ("no magic"), then Plato is right and the physical > reality is the border of the universal mind, i.e. the mind of the > universal machine (Turing, Church, Post, ...). > > I am afraid that the "Ross theory" is still in the frame of taking > Aristotle theology for granted. > > Bruno > > > >> >>> >>> On 08 Jun 2014, at 20:33, John Ross wrote: >>> >>>> I am not trying to prove quantum mechanics incorrect. I am trying >>>> to prove my theory is correct. If my theory is correct, and quantum >>>> mechanics is inconsistent withmy theory then quantum mechanics may >>>> very well be incorrect. There is also a possibility that on some >>>> issues the two theories may both be correct. >>> >>> QM is the only theory (or scheme of theories) which has not been >>> refuted for more than a century. All others theories in physics have >>> been shown wrong in less than few years, when they are not suspected >>> to be wrong at the start (wrong does not imply "not useful" in some >>> context). >>> >>> So my question, which has been already asked, is simply what happens >>> when you send tronnies, one by one, (or compounds of tronnies) on a >>> plate with two close small holes? (have you heard and think about >>> Young two slits experience?). >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> You lost me with Turing emulable. >>> >>> We can come back on this later, but as you seem not so much >>> interested >>> in consciousness, that might be out of your topic, at least for now. >>> Taking consciousness into account + the hypothesis that the brain >>> is a >>> natural computer might force us to make physics into a sort of >>> illusion entirely reducible to the study of machine's psychology or >>> theology. See my URL or post, if interested. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected] >>>> ] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 2:35 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: TRONNIES - SPACE >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07 Jun 2014, at 22:18, John Ross wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I do not explain consciousness. >>>> >>>> Fair enough. You are not searching to explain "everything". >>>> Unfortunately, consciousness has something to say on the very origin >>>> of the beliefs in the physical laws. You are still an Aristotelian >>>> theologian (taking matter for primitive or granted with the naive >>>> identity relation (brain/mind)). To defend that relation, between >>>> brain and mind, you will need some special sort of actual >>>> infinities. With the thesis that a brain (or body) is Turing >>>> emulable, you can still attach consciousness to a brain, but you >>>> cannot attach a brain to consciousness, you can only attach an >>>> infinity of relative universal machine states to a consciousness. >>>> This might explain the many-world aspect of quantum mechanics. It is >>>> not yet clear to me what is your position on quantum mechanics, or >>>> your explanation of the two slits experiment. >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jr >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected] >>>> ] On Behalf Of LizR >>>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 6:02 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: TRONNIES - SPACE >>>> >>>> On 7 June 2014 04:12, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> There is a theory of everything - my theory, "The Ross Model". You >>>> are a smart person and you are extremely interested in this subject, >>>> so sooner or later you will get around to reading my book. And I >>>> predict you will be forced to agree with me. >>>> >>>> I haven't yet managed to discover what the ontology of the RM is - >>>> is the idea "primitive materialism" - that space, time, matter and >>>> energy are fundamental? 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