On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:46 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Richard, that's a one to many situation you have dug up. The audits by IRS
> against conservatives are deliberate and politically motivated. Your side
> is out to defeat it's political enemies, just as Nixon tried to so many
> years ago.
>
>
>
Spud,

You do not seem to realize that it is illegal for any group to be tax
exempt if they are political.
Richard

>
> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/irs-tea-party-conservative-groups-scandal-now-center-19182163
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/14/irs-gave-progressives-a-pass-tea-party-groups-put-on-hold/2159983/
>
>  The FBI used by BHO and company-
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/doj-fox-news-james-rosen_n_3307422.html
>
> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/0520/Obama-administration-targets-Fox-News-reporter-in-chilling-echo-of-AP-probe-video
>
>  NSA Spying on everyone, especially Americans-
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/30/no-more-nsa-spying-obama-not-true
>
>
> https://www.aclu.org/secure/sem-reclaim-your-privacy-stand-aclu-today?s_src=UNW140001SEM&ms=gad_SEM_Google_Search-VerizonNSA_na_national%20security%20agency%20spying_b_42474621982
>
>  Militarizing of US Federal Agencies? Why does EPA or USDA need a SWAT
> team? Who are these teams and weapons and ammo being saved for, a Bolivian
> invasion?
>
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/06/1042835/-Why-is-the-Federal-Government-Militarizing-our-Police-Departments#
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-21/why-is-the-post-office-buying-bullets
>
>  My comments were cause and effect, Richard, and not howling emotions. I
> used to be a Democrat, till I feared for US survival.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 6:24 am
> Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>
>  Spud: Specifically, it's the use of auditing conservative groups, using
> the US IRS, and never, not once, auditing liberal groups; and this by the
> admission of the heads of the IRS.
>
>  RR: Untrue. As of last year the only org to lose their tax exempt status
> was a liberal org from Maine
>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/meet_the_group_the_irs_actually_revoked_democrats/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:11 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, its not a psychological thing. A psychological thing would be
>> avoidence, as in ignoring what people say and do and just going with "a
>> feeling." This is years of observing the actions of "your" side. It's
>> purely, observing speeches and behavior, and borrowing from old, Claude
>> Shannon (who worked for the OSS from 1942-45) you observe what people say
>> to each other, of their own persuasion, and also what they do not say. For
>> example, in my country, there is now a big scandal, that the president and
>> his loyal press cannot bury. Specifically, it's the use of auditing
>> conservative groups, using the US IRS, and never, not once, auditing
>> liberal groups; and this by the admission of the heads of the IRS. Its' the
>> use of the FBI, deliberately, ordered to spy on a "conservative" report for
>> Fox. It's the enormous expansion of the NSA and its spying capabilities,
>> It's also the spiking of news by all the presidents' loyal press, which
>> gets first reported on, say, Fox, and then after the elections, the news
>> comes out anyways, because they can no longer look good to themselves,
>> psychologically. What I am speaking about is the Benghazi cover up, which
>> got 4 people killed, when our fearless leader could have saved them.
>> Motivations for not acting? Military action would weakened support from his
>> fellow, lib voters, for the 2012 election, and also, and this is just my
>> guess, he was rocking the ganj in the whitehouse with some girfriend. Look
>> to Michelle's quietude, to Hillary Clinton's quietude, to Jacqueline
>> Kennedy's quietude on marital dalliances, as a solid history. I suppose sex
>> in the whitehouse has some charm for some women. My point is BHO didn't
>> want to be bothered, and for months "his press" shilled for him. Oh, that's
>> right! Liberals are the good guys, you care about people, because you're so
>> willing to use other people's money, so you can "feel" better. Yeah.
>>
>>  I see... you seem to feel that because you "think" most  "liberals" <or
>> insert whatever label here> are this way or that that this "gut feeling" of
>> yours gives you the right to make statements about me, which you have no
>> way of knowing the truth of. What a brilliant stretch of reasoning.
>> Seriously do you just pull stuff out of your-you-know-where...pin it on
>> people who do not share your particular world view and call it a day? Do
>> you have starch for brains... are you really that much of a potato head?
>> You force me to admit that maybe Kim was onto something.
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
>> [email protected]>
>> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 7:46 pm
>> Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>>
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]
>> >
>>
>>   To most "liberals/progressive/Marxists" is a wet dream, a fantasy come
>> true for them. The "boi" thing is nice and I wish I thought of it. People
>> are not xenophobic, if they actually have world, idiots actively seeing you
>> go bye bye, Since the baddies have won the last US election, its their
>> world now. However, I still suspect an X crossing Y point in the US, not
>> went the 53% get angry, but when the 47% feels they have had enough. As far
>> as who to like and hate in the world, there's nothing stopping any
>> nationalist from working together on important trade, and technical
>> pursuits. Race is no big deal as we are all related, seemingly, but, now,
>> cultures are a waaaay, different thing, because it conveys who one
>> identifies with, and what one values. That's where things are more nuanced.
>> But even here, if the rewards are great enough, we can have enough
>> incentive, for people to work together. But not if they're out to cut one's
>> throat.
>>
>> Where have I ever said that a destabilized America is to my liking? Never
>> said anything remotely suggesting that. Does spudboi mean "xenophobic
>> potato head" perchance?
>>
>>
>>  I see... you seem to feel that because you "think" most  "liberals" <or
>> insert whatever label here> are this way or that that this "gut feeling" of
>> yours gives you the right to make statements about me, which you have no
>> way of knowing the truth of. What a brilliant stretch of reasoning.
>> Seriously do you just pull stuff out of your-you-know-where...pin it on
>> people who do not share your particular world view and call it a day? Do
>> you have starch for brains... are you really that much of a potato head?
>> You force me to admit that maybe Kim was onto something.
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
>> [email protected]>
>> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 3:37 pm
>> Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>>
>>
>>
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>>  *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]
>> >
>>
>>   >>This will likely bring some sort of conflict, I am guessing.
>> However, a destabilized, US, might be to your liking, emotionally, so as to
>> fit your personal world view? In any case you can test out your national
>> friendships with China, Russia, Iran, and maybe, ISIS? (That's a great name
>> for a group-Ian Fleming couldn't have done better!).
>>
>>  Where have I ever said that a destabilized America is to my liking?
>> Never said anything remotely suggesting that. Does spudboi mean "xenophobic
>> potato head" perchance?
>>
>>  Hopefully others will realize that Americans are not all like you
>> spudboi, for you -- and your ilk - are the inspiration for a lot of the
>> negative stereotypes people have formed about America.
>> Enjoy life a little potato head; stop being so tiresomely predictable.
>> Chris
>>
>>
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