Spud, I will fault Obama for supporting the ISIS in Syria but opposing them in Iraq. Richard
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:44 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote: > Sure, but if one is pushed to try to put out fires that progressives are > lighting around the world, and, or enabling jihadists to do so, one can > develop the Manichean attitude. It's unwise to light fires during a dry > spell and this is what progressives do, because its how they "feel." Or > "feel" is right. I could fly into a rage, or pretend to, and shriek, "how > dare you typify me as a tea bagger..yadda yadda yadda." But it clarifies > nothing and presents no way forward. I am just presenting news items from > the US presidents own troops, the mainstream media, who find it difficult > to ignore some of the things he's fowled up. To his view, nothings wrong, > nothings broken, its all good. Now that is a point of beliefs, ideologies, > and values. I don't think his side see's this as negotiable, so hence the > Manichean bilateralism. > > Comrade Stalin was fascinating, historically in the same sense that the > bubonic plague was. > > Makes you sound Stalinist... are you a crypto-communist per chance? You > Tea Party people are truly a tiresome bunch.... so very Manichean. Come on > man there are more hues than black and white in the spectrum. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > [email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 9:19 pm > Subject: Re: American Intelligence > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: American Intelligence > > >>Perchance! I have just observed, on occasions, your points of view > and it adds up to the progressive mind set, more or less. > > The act of your "deciding" that I have a more or less progressive > mindset leads you to conclude that I therefore hate America or some such > silly Tea Party labeling of all who do not conform to the Tea Party line. > Makes you sound Stalinist... are you a crypto-communist per chance? You > Tea Party people are truly a tiresome bunch.... so very Manichean. Come on > man there are more hues than black and white in the spectrum. > Chris > > > > Feel free at any time to define your own positions that diverge from all > that. As for what goes on in the world, in mine own land yet, this kind of > thing, brought forth from the "left" has sort of messed things up here. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/irs-admits-targeting-conservatives-for-tax-scrutiny-in-2012-election/2013/05/10/3b6a0ada-b987-11e2-92f3-f291801936b8_story.html > There's also this- > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/obama-nsa-spying_n_5028736.html > and this- > http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/20/nation/la-na-fbi-reporter-20130521 > and this of course- > http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/meast/iraq-photos-isis/ > and this too- > > http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/u-s-economy-contracted-almost-3-percent-first-quarter-n140336 > > The political cards do not now auger well for the US now, and sad to say, > even under Bush 43, things did not seem as gloomy. Look at the economy and > now the politics in France under Hollande, the US president's brother, so > to speak. Neither guys are pragmatists and both ideologues, of the > neo-Marxist persuasion. Neomarx don't seem to work well except for the very > rich and very poor. A pragmatist would know better. As far as defining you, > just remember the great, French philosopher, Jacque Derida who invented > desconstructionism. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction > > Zoot! Alours! Trifle with me, and I shall deconstruct you a-gain! Mon Deiu! > > > Whose side is my side? A-hole you don’t know me yet you feel you have some > kind of entitlement to define me. Do you have a God complex perchance? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > [email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 12:53 pm > Subject: RE: American Intelligence > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]?>] > > > > No, its not a psychological thing. A psychological thing would be > avoidence, as in ignoring what people say and do and just going with "a > feeling." This is years of observing the actions of "your" side. > > Whose side is my side? A-hole you don’t know me yet you feel you have some > kind of entitlement to define me. Do you have a God complex perchance? > > It's purely, observing speeches and behavior, and borrowing from old, > Claude Shannon (who worked for the OSS from 1942-45) you observe what > people say to each other, of their own persuasion, and also what they do > not say. For example, in my country, there is now a big scandal, that the > president and his loyal press cannot bury. Specifically, it's the use of > auditing conservative groups, using the US IRS, and never, not once, > auditing liberal groups; and this by the admission of the heads of the IRS. > > More BS – as others have shown. And as I can see from your strung together > talking points you are parroting the tea party line…. How very original of > you. > Chris > > > Its' the use of the FBI, deliberately, ordered to spy on a "conservative" > report for Fox. It's the enormous expansion of the NSA and its spying > capabilities, It's also the spiking of news by all the presidents' loyal > press, which gets first reported on, say, Fox, and then after the > elections, the news comes out anyways, because they can no longer look good > to themselves, psychologically. What I am speaking about is the Benghazi > cover up, which got 4 people killed, when our fearless leader could have > saved them. Motivations for not acting? Military action would weakened > support from his fellow, lib voters, for the 2012 election, and also, and > this is just my guess, he was rocking the ganj in the whitehouse with some > girfriend. Look to Michelle's quietude, to Hillary Clinton's quietude, to > Jacqueline Kennedy's quietude on marital dalliances, as a solid history. I > suppose sex in the whitehouse has some charm for some women. My point is > BHO didn't want to be bothered, and for months "his press" shilled for him. > Oh, that's right! Liberals are the good guys, you care about people, > because you're so willing to use other people's money, so you can "feel" > better. Yeah. > > I see... you seem to feel that because you "think" most "liberals" <or > insert whatever label here> are this way or that that this "gut feeling" of > yours gives you the right to make statements about me, which you have no > way of knowing the truth of. What a brilliant stretch of reasoning. > Seriously do you just pull stuff out of your-you-know-where...pin it on > people who do not share your particular world view and call it a day? Do > you have starch for brains... are you really that much of a potato head? > You force me to admit that maybe Kim was onto something. > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > [email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 7:46 pm > Subject: Re: American Intelligence > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> > > To most "liberals/progressive/Marxists" is a wet dream, a fantasy come > true for them. The "boi" thing is nice and I wish I thought of it. People > are not xenophobic, if they actually have world, idiots actively seeing you > go bye bye, Since the baddies have won the last US election, its their > world now. However, I still suspect an X crossing Y point in the US, not > went the 53% get angry, but when the 47% feels they have had enough. As far > as who to like and hate in the world, there's nothing stopping any > nationalist from working together on important trade, and technical > pursuits. Race is no big deal as we are all related, seemingly, but, now, > cultures are a waaaay, different thing, because it conveys who one > identifies with, and what one values. That's where things are more nuanced. > But even here, if the rewards are great enough, we can have enough > incentive, for people to work together. But not if they're out to cut one's > throat. > > Where have I ever said that a destabilized America is to my liking? Never > said anything remotely suggesting that. Does spudboi mean "xenophobic > potato head" perchance? > > > I see... you seem to feel that because you "think" most "liberals" <or > insert whatever label here> are this way or that that this "gut feeling" of > yours gives you the right to make statements about me, which you have no > way of knowing the truth of. What a brilliant stretch of reasoning. > Seriously do you just pull stuff out of your-you-know-where...pin it on > people who do not share your particular world view and call it a day? Do > you have starch for brains... are you really that much of a potato head? > You force me to admit that maybe Kim was onto something. > Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > [email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 3:37 pm > Subject: Re: American Intelligence > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> > > >>This will likely bring some sort of conflict, I am guessing. However, > a destabilized, US, might be to your liking, emotionally, so as to fit your > personal world view? In any case you can test out your national friendships > with China, Russia, Iran, and maybe, ISIS? (That's a great name for a > group-Ian Fleming couldn't have done better!). > > Where have I ever said that a destabilized America is to my liking? > Never said anything remotely suggesting that. Does spudboi mean "xenophobic > potato head" perchance? > > Hopefully others will realize that Americans are not all like you > spudboi, for you -- and your ilk - are the inspiration for a lot of the > negative stereotypes people have formed about America. > Enjoy life a little potato head; stop being so tiresomely predictable. > Chris > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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