On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:30 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Pantheists are cool, as are Lobian machines, immaterialists, materialist,
> Schrodinger wave stuff. I do have probs with Marxists-Progressives because
> of the destabilization issue. Udder den dat, let a thousand flowers bloom
> (as Marxist Mao once said). Progressives get very huffy when one publically
> disagrees with them (how dare they!) Looks like Magister Criss did too.
> It's how some people get their amygylas work. It needs a good workout
> every now and then. I am happy to provide the stimuli in this sense. But,
> yes, it does divert the awareness from the nature of consciousness-but
> that's how reality is, as we do the ivory tower waltz-life breaks in like a
> bomb going off in Falujah.
>

I think it should be obvious that this was a bad try towards humor, and not
an attempt to sell personal politics. PGC


>
>
> You maggots think you can get away with ignoring the titles of your
> superiors? 50 Laps and N pushups, all of you except spud: Humans, machines,
> universal ones, Löbian ones, materialists, immaterialists, physicalists,
> Darwinists, pantheists, recursive fetishists, atheists, agnostics,
> idiotics, MSR, P-time nutheads, tronifiers, computationalists, magicians,
> quantum jerks (with AND without collapse of wave function, I don't care)
> and the rest of your foul undisciplined ontological technically genderless
> asses!
>
> This is an argument of authority! From an ignorant, hypocrite jerk that
> doesn't believe in them, no less!
>
> Don't provoke me to deter your asses any more than this. Ok? Good. Emulate
> it. Yes, emulate the goodness. Run it. You won't know whether it'll ever
> stop. That's better, see? :-) PGC
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 8:33 pm
> Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:14 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I tend to agree with your sentiments, Telmo. My idea, should you care, is
>> that if one goes to war, half measures and quarter measures end up quite
>> badly. If one can achieve peace, justice, and free beer, without doing
>> violence to one's fellow primates, this is a great thing. But it is not
>> assured, that simply because one tries a peaceable track, that it will even
>> work. So, if one fights, why hold back? Observe, the results of the US's
>> partial warfare model, and decide for yourself if it has been a brimming
>> success or not? The nuclear war thing, I likely fret more about then
>> any.other participant, on this mailing list. The primary reason for this is
>> that fission, and fusion weapons, are now very old, and the missile tech to
>> carry the bombs are only a bit younger. If I was a citizen of Europe, I
>> would be very concerned that the deliberate diminishment of US power, would
>> invite aggression from places where it would have seemed a laughable,
>> fiction, only a decade ago. To wit, you folks are now on your own, with the
>> current US leadership. It may not bother you, even a bit, but I see that
>> this is a new geopolitical fact. Be well.
>
>
>  Uhm... thanks for your help and strategic advise, sir.
>
> We, speaking for all european leftist pacifist tree hugging conspirators
> present, know what to do now: we'll keep relations with US at optimum
> rimming status as we have done for the last 60 odd years, and you can chill
> a bit with the right wing spam editorials on the list. That's just the
> geopolitical situation right now according to PGC HQ (first and therefore
> most prestigious HQ of the list by far!), you get our allegiance, but we
> need a bit of freedom in return. You know qpq sir, strengthen troop morale
> and such.
>
>  Also we should all take your example and call Russell "Prof. Standish"
> or "Professor", from now on exclusively! Any slip up with titles and I will
> ceremonially curse your name with modest restraint in the forest with my
> scary looking but kind canine; only if nobody is watching though, otherwise
> it'll look weird which would be going too far.
>
> You maggots think you can get away with ignoring the titles of your
> superiors? 50 Laps and N pushups, all of you except spud: Humans, machines,
> universal ones, Löbian ones, materialists, immaterialists, physicalists,
> Darwinists, pantheists, recursive fetishists, atheists, agnostics,
> idiotics, MSR, P-time nutheads, tronifiers, computationalists, magicians,
> quantum jerks (with AND without collapse of wave function, I don't care)
> and the rest of your foul undisciplined ontological technically genderless
> asses!
>
> This is an argument of authority! From an ignorant, hypocrite jerk that
> doesn't believe in them, no less!
>
> Don't provoke me to deter your asses any more than this. Ok? Good. Emulate
> it. Yes, emulate the goodness. Run it. You won't know whether it'll ever
> stop. That's better, see? :-) PGC
>
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
>> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>> Sent: 29-Jun-2014 18:35:58 +0000
>> Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>>
>>     I support mil actions as long as its fought like total war. Think
>> WW2. Note, that nuanced responses have done little since WW2, although the
>> Korean War is the most solid, maybe? If its worth fighting, then its worth
>> willing to the max.
>>
>>
>>  Nuanced responses became quite popular after WW2 because of the
>> invention of atomic bombs. Any civilisation that you can clash with will
>> offer you MAD. Witch is an apt name, because you have to be batshit crazy
>> to desire war.
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