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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: American Intelligence
You have a splendid idea there and many people round the world agree with
you. This is not an irrational argument, though likely, too optimistic. Your
sensibilities, and mine, are not shared globally. look to the new Caliphate,
for an example on people differing in world view.
This boogie monster, this Caliphate you brandish about as if it should
somehow inspire chills and shivers of fear in all who hear the dread word
mentioned. is nothing more than a few thousand well-armed Salafi thugs in
the deserts of Syria & Iraq.
We should be afraid. why exactly?
The funny thing for me is that you will no doubt produce some kind of
answer. so please do humor me. Why should a few thousand scary looking thugs
with automatic weapons in some far away desert scare anybody beyond their
immediate neighbors?
And anyway.. I really hope nobody will ever use nuclear weapons anymore;
this will only result in our own extinction (if anybody ever survive, it
will be at minima the end of our civilization). There is really no point to
ever think it could be a safe detterent to use one.
Quentin
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From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 11:15 am
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
And anyway.. I really hope nobody will ever use nuclear weapons anymore;
this will only result in our own extinction (if anybody ever survive, it
will be at minima the end of our civilization). There is really no point to
ever think it could be a safe detterent to use one.
Quentin
2014-06-30 17:07 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>:
The USA has the capacity to destroy the missile before it even touch the
US... USA has not the capacity to do this for all the Russian ICBM *by
treaties* not because it's too difficult... USA has enough anti-ICBM to
destroy any north korean ICBM who would threaten them... I doubt that North
Korea has developed stealth ICBM...
Quentin
2014-06-30 17:01 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
<[email protected]>:
Quentin, I am more concerned that if North Korea attacks the US, Obama and
his party will do nothing. "It'll just make things worse!" "We cannot risk
things getting out of hand." "The entire human species is at stake. We can
absorb the damage done and minimize our losses." "We'd be killing their
children as well as their leaders, we cannot do this!" This is what I see,
in reaction to a Kim Strike. Also, as you rightly mentioned: do you really
think that if the USA use nuke against those countries, China and Russia
(and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
lay back and enjoy it, maybe ;-D ? I am more worried about what our elites
do than what China and Russia do. I don't see this as a hollow threat, or a
paper tiger, Quentin, as this article indicates. Its from Reuters, which is
a progressive news agency. I never post stuff from Fox, or some blog, when I
engage in polly discussions, because its more meaningful when the news comes
from "ones' own."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSBREA410
2S20140502
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSBREA410
2S20140502
Yes, from what I've read, a local nuclear conflict is pretty sure to
escalate to a full blown global nuclear conflict leading to global
destruction...
do you really think that if the USA use nuke against those countries, China
and Russia (and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
Quentin
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From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 10:16 am
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
2014-06-30 14:38 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
<[email protected]>:
Well, I somehow do remember MAD, and it worked with the Sovs, but I suspect
less so with Iran, Isis and North Kor. Do you disagree?
Yes, from what I've read, a local nuclear conflict is pretty sure to
escalate to a full blown global nuclear conflict leading to global
destruction... do you really think that if the USA use nuke against those
countries, China and Russia (and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
Quentin
Because all out nuclear war would make large chunks of the planet
uninhabitable?
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From: LizR <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On 30 June 2014 11:14, spudboy100 via Everything List
<[email protected]> wrote:
I tend to agree with your sentiments, Telmo. My idea, should you care, is
that if one goes to war, half measures and quarter measures end up quite
badly. If one can achieve peace, justice, and free beer, without doing
violence to one's fellow primates, this is a great thing. But it is not
assured, that simply because one tries a peaceable track, that it will even
work. So, if one fights, why hold back?
Because all out nuclear war would make large chunks of the planet
uninhabitable?
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