So you never would support the use of US military forces under any
circumstances, is this correct? Secondly, theres nothing more
fascist,then a cadre of billionaires controlling the dem party. These
boys out Koch the Koch's and one would be hedge fund manager and
Marxist billionaire, George Soros. Lastly, yes, I would collapse the
Islamist empire if this is what it would take for us to survive and
thrive. Your view is what, lay our heads upon the railroad track of
'historical inevitability,' so you can 'feel better?'
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Subject: Re: American Intelligence You do know the concept of
asymmetrical warfare? I lived through the actuality of asymmetrical
war couch potato general! I didn't say you have to agree with it, but
please, acknowledge that historically its a strategy that has legs. So
dismissing a few thousand fighters as a zero threat is insane. No,
actually what is insane is demanding that we all line up behind a
genocidal total war as you so self-righteously demand that we do. Go
off and fight your own damn fight coward. On average far more Americans
die each year from bee stings than die from terrorist attacks; you have
no sense of proportionality in weighting what are the actual real
threats. It would be insane if we ignore a re-purposed jihad against
the US. The total war concept is one possibility, as a response, that
should never be take off the table, as a once and for all, threat
removal. There are other, nuanced, ways that are more clever, that
might actually work in our favor, but counting on this, for ideological
reasons, is also insane. I line up behind total war as a possibility
because I don't want the world to sink into a dark age, which the
Islamists would likely bring. It would only be a dark age for us and
not Russia, and not China. Run for the hills the Islamists are coming…
hahaha you are a paranoid one aren’t you spuddy. If you believe the US
is under actual risk of becoming thrown into a medievalist dark ages
because of a few thousand bearded murderous dogs of war following a
bearded asshole calling himself a Caliph and murdering those who
dissent… then you are seriously off your fucking rockers man. There
are people who never side with the US on any mil action. If you want to
supply a military action, shooting, and all that, that you do support,
feel free to supply that data, for a more, clear, discussion.
The left, like the ISM and so forth, are supporters of Islamist groups,
and this is no fib. So I say known by the company they keep. Listen up
you McCarthist piss ant, you do not get to brand other Americans as
enemies of their country… I do not keep company with the ISM, so fuck
you and your fascist insinuations. Last, you have accused me of being
a racist for seeing that the Presidents' policies suck, and daring to
say so. Ah well, what can one do with such a crusty, redneck,
reprobate, such as myself, after saying that. Sorry, pal, I never had a
confederate flag hanging in the plywood interior of my trailer, nor,
did I curse the hand that punched in the name of Al (Global Flame!)
Gore, in 2000. Hey, I like hydrogen cars, call it a character flaw. I
just wanted and want this nation state to survive for a few decades
hence. No, you demand that everyone line up behind a global total war…
you pompous insane little man. This is a view that is not shared by a
majority, nor is the rational, reason, for their unwarranted,
overconfidence, apparent. But, hey, its how they feel! You have proven
nothing spudboy… all you have laid forth is vague ominous sounding
scenarios that ferment and reverberate within the neocon insane asylum,
in which you reside. And just like your neocon mentors you are too much
of a coward to go off and do any fighting yourself; that you DEMAND
others go off to do. And if anyone disagrees with you – you brand them
an enemy of the nation. Your mental processes follow the closed circle
of totalitarian doctrine…. Goose stepping your way onwards. That's
what's important, correct? Actually in the historical context of the
US right now what’s important, is that Tea Party fascists such as
yourself get beaten back down. People who share your views are a small
minority in this country; this is borne out by polling data. Americans
are sick and tired of the neocon wars, spudboy… and we are sick and
tired of A-holes like you who demand we all line up behind yet another
neocon war. Tip o' the beret' to monsieur, Le Bon, for forecasting
that one. Whatever dude.
And you cannot call me a hater of my country when I disagree with your
assessment of the degree and imminence of the threat posed by a few
thousand armed thugs wreaking havoc in the Syrian desert. Certainly an
imminent threat for Syrians and Iraqis, but not for the United States
of America.
You demand that we all line up behind a total war, and when anyone
disagrees with you on this you start calling them haters of their
country and suggest that they are even in some way in league with the
jihadists. This is what I find obnoxious about you spudboy (whatever
your real name is)
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You cannot dance at two weddings as they in Texas. There are sometimes
situations where things, I have to tell you, render themselves
as Manichean, sorry to say. Sometimes, its they hand that we are dealt
and are forced to play.
And you cannot call me a hater of my country when I disagree with your
assessment of the degree and imminence of the threat posed by a few
thousand armed thugs wreaking havoc in the Syrian desert. Certainly an
imminent threat for Syrians and Iraqis, but not for the United States
of America.
You demand that we all line up behind a total war, and when anyone
disagrees with you on this you start calling them haters of their
country and suggest that they are even in some way in league with the
jihadists. This is what I find obnoxious about you spudboy (whatever
your real name is)
You do not get to brand those who do not agree with your own worldview
as being enemies of America; you do not get to brand me or anyone else
as a being a traitor… you do not have any right to engage in couch
potato McCarthyism.
And when you do, as you have done, I will get right up there in your
face with your own fascist behavior. As soon as you desist from this
odious totalitarian technique – accusing opponents of being traitorous
“fellow travelers” with enemies of the state – I will let you blather
on with your arm chair general prognostications and happily hit the
delete button so I do not have to wade through your mental foolishness
and intolerant minded prescriptions.
Chris
Why have wars, if we don't have the tenacity and the bloodymindedness
to win? I never said negotiation or tradeoff never work, but if you
hold to appeasement, under any other name, and that appeasement isn't
a mutual one, then it often makes the crisis worse as we saw under
Chamberlain. As for the racism, fascism, accusations, this
is typically the verbal tools of the left, when they run out of
bullets. If you go ad hominem, why not me? It's fun, good for the
amygdala, but it's not ameliorative. Here is an article from the UK
Telegraph, sort of illustrating the constriction of freedom we have had
under crony capitalism. The world seems to be run by this system, aka
corporatism.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10731390/Why-
Americas-poisonous-politics-makes-Market-Leninism-an-attractive-alternati
ve.html
You have every right to disagree with him, often I do – actually I
think he is a sellout to the central money banks of Wall Street. You
have every right to disagree but when you start questioning the loyalty
of those who disagree with you, insinuating that they are pursuing the
agenda of enemies you slip right down into fascism, into McCarthyism.
You have no right to tell anybody to go live in Cuba – like you brag
you do. Who, exactly do you think you are? And what kind of thing is
that to say about someone you disagree with?
Your love it (in precisely the way you love it) or leave it attitude is
getting tiresome… you are the ugly face of America… the germ of sowing
future hatred. I love my country enough to oppose people with your
agenda.
You don’t get to do that or say that… you can say whatever you want,
but when you go off into dishing out that kind of love it or leave it
McCarthyism you can expect to run into headwind.
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I dare to disagree with fearless leader and his party! The gulags were
run by people with this kind of thinking. How dare I judge the
leadership by what it yields, rather then adherence to ideology, or
kowtow because the dude has African genetics? How dare I? Tee-hee-hee!!
You have every right to disagree with him, often I do – actually I
think he is a sellout to the central money banks of Wall Street. You
have every right to disagree but when you start questioning the loyalty
of those who disagree with you, insinuating that they are pursuing the
agenda of enemies you slip right down into fascism, into McCarthyism.
You have no right to tell anybody to go live in Cuba – like you brag
you do. Who, exactly do you think you are? And what kind of thing is
that to say about someone you disagree with?
Your love it (in precisely the way you love it) or leave it attitude is
getting tiresome… you are the ugly face of America… the germ of sowing
future hatred. I love my country enough to oppose people with your
agenda.
You don’t get to do that or say that… you can say whatever you want,
but when you go off into dishing out that kind of love it or leave it
McCarthyism you can expect to run into headwind.
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