On 7/8/2014 1:17 AM, LizR wrote:
On 8 July 2014 17:46, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:On 7/7/2014 7:34 PM, LizR wrote:On 8 July 2014 14:19, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: I think comp implies that we won't have created consciousness, but we will have enabled some of the consciousness that exists by hypothesis in arithmetic to manifest itself. (Could this imply a test for comp, by the way?) That's sort of like Boeing doesn't create 787s they just enable a certain arrangement of atoms to manifest the airliner inherent in the quantum field. That's sort of like saying you've decided comp is wrong.No, I'm just a-comp. No, you're saying it's wrong.
I think I know what I'm saying, but if you take it to be a flat denial of comp then I take it back. A criticism is not the same as a negation.
Your facetious comparison with 787s etc is basically saying one of the central ideas of comp is false.
It's not entirely facetious; it's pointing to a general problem with everythingism theories. They hypothesize "everything" in some sense (all arithmetic truth or all orbifolds of strings for example) and consider that our world is thereby explained...modulo the stuff we don't see.
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