Both the right and left? Naw! The Left respects useful tools practicing 
religion for the cause. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, are the most prominent 
and successful, for the 'cause.' The cause is ideological, a faith movement, 
sans, religion. as such. Is religion bloodthirsty? For sure. Worldwide, its 
generally not Christians or Hindus starting the wars. It may simply be a 
'phase' like the Jesus people from 325 AD thru 1914? Perhaps, the Jihad will 
mellow out soon? The primo motivation for the slaughters done by Christians, 
and now done by Islamists, is the afterlife thing. Until we come up with that, 
somehow, the fun will continue. 

I would describe it as a societal paradigm… this unspoken rule that all should 
respect religion. It dominates both the political right as well as the left. 

 
 
 
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Salman Rushdie wrote:


 
> religion is the poison in the blood. Where religion intervenes, mere 
> innocence is no excuse. Yet we go on skating around this issue, speaking of 
> religion in the fashionable language of "respect". What is there to respect 
> in any of this, or in any of the crimes now being committed almost daily 
> around the world in religion's dreaded name? 

 

It is the liberal consensus that we should always respect all religious beliefs 
regardless of how stupid or cruel it is; for example tune into just about any 
international news broadcast and you will probably see at least one story about 
religious violence somewhere in the world,  but the media won't call it that, 
the media will call it "sectarian violence". As for me I think there is a point 
beyond which a euphemism becomes a lie.

  John K Clark

 
I would describe it as a societal paradigm… this unspoken rule that all should 
respect religion. It dominates both the political right as well as the left. 
Religion is a useful tool to power structures (when it is not the power 
structure itself); religion serves the interests of central authority. Emperor 
Constantine and the Roman imperial elites of the time have as much (or more 
perhaps some argue)  than any mythical prophet, to do with the evolution of a 
loose set of scattered stories into an organized imperial state religion united 
under the crucifix (and conveniently the emperor as well).
You would probably describe me as being liberal, but I certainly do not ascribe 
to any dictum that I respect the institution of or practice of religion. Quite 
frankly I do not. Especially organized religion, which is a lot like organized 
crime IMO, sharing with it many of the same characteristics and practices. A 
few examples of some shared characteristics: murdering (or shunning) those who 
attempt to leave; murdering (or marginalizing) the competition (very mob like 
behavior); demanding protection money from those under its control – the tithes 
to the church are they really that different from protection money to the local 
gang boss. I could go on, the ways in which religion and organized crime 
operate is quite numerous.
Chris



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