The poiont isn't that someone can tell you the definition, the point is
that when we discuss a topic we do our best to ensure we're talking about
the same thing.


On 9 September 2014 05:18, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:51 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It helps in discussions like these to agree on what we're talking about,
>> which (by definition :-) means having the same definitions
>>
>
> I don't think so, most people would flounder if asked for a definition,
> even for a commonly used word. Instead when somebody doesn't know the
> meaning of a word that we've used we usually don't provide a definition but
> instead point to something and say "like that"; and that's exactly the way
> things should be because otherwise we run into infinite loops. All
> definitions are made of words, and every one of those words have their own
> definition that are also made of words, and every one of those words would
> have their own definition also made of words, and [...]
>
> You get the idea, round and round we go. The only thing that gets language
> out of this endless loop is examples; we can point to a word and then point
> to
> something in the real world and say "this word means that".
>
> > ironically, you're arguing about the definition of "definition"
>>
>
> No, it would be foolish to ask me to define "define", if you already know
> what the word means then you don't need to ask, and if you don't know then
> my answer would not help you. If you don't even know what "klogknee" means
> then you certainly wouldn't ask me to klogknee "klogknee", and even if you
> did my response would not bring you enlightenment.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
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