First we'd have to figure out what "means" means. :-)

Brent

On 9/6/2014 1:48 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Jeez - Liz, correction!!!
/*(a lot of megabytes have been wasted because people don't agree on what 
something means)*/
you may have meant: ...on what we THINK a 'meaning' may be ...?
Who knows what something (anything) REALLY means?  -  not me, for sure.
John


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:06 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lizj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Jeez, and I thought intelligence was the easy one. But yes, using the same
    definitions is important, a lot of megabytes have been wasted because 
people don't
    agree on what something means (I won't mention free will...oops.)


    On 6 September 2014 09:18, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jami...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

        After reading lots of repeats by otherwise smart people on the topic:
        do we have a concensus on this list (narrow target enough?) about
        some  identification of *intelligence? *  (forget Wiki!)
        *_
        _*
        I proposed the*/'inter-lego'/* classic, meaning to *_"read"_* 
(=understand
        act out, apply, etc.) the meanings BETWEEN the exactly worded lines
        (not as exactly spelled out verbatim). It requires a WIDER view, some
        anticipatory talent maybe, some combinatorical capability and so on).

        There was not too much appreciation (indeed: no reflections at all).

        On *_'artificial'_* I have a weaker opinion: in our usage of language 
the
        word directs my mind towards /_'speculative'_/ - as both man-confounded,
        or contraption-erected results - or both. (I wonder why 'my mind' does
        avert from the/_'naturally grown'_/ as artificial? Indeed Mme.Nature is 
also
        just human. Or so we think.
        Maybe I would lose my agnostic wisdom (ha ha) of unknowable and
        unfathomable pressures directing the *CHANGE* in the world).

        So: are we ready to vote for 'intelligence'? (Not the CIA, mind you!).

        John M


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