PS apologies if you get onto that later.

On 23 October 2014 16:34, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> IMHO this slightly understates the problem of an infinite causal chain:
>
> The idea of an eternally existing universe – for example in the form of an
> eternal cycle of Big Bangs – might turn out to be a scientifically
> legitimate hypothesis. It might even turn out to be true. But it still
> doesn't answer the question why there is anything at all. It doesn't answer
> the question why there is this infinite series to begin with. It might be
> objected that this question makes no sense because in an infinite series of
> causes there simply is no first cause. But this objection assumes that the
> ultimate cause of the universe must be temporal, existing in time, like the
> universe itself. But why can't the ultimate cause be non-temporal? This,
> indeed, is what contemporary physics suggests about the cause of the Big
> Bang: since not only space and matter but also time itself only came into
> existence with the Big Bang, the cause of the Big Bang must be timeless.
> This notion of a non-temporal cause is also inescapable for the infinitist
> solution. A temporally infinite series of causes has no first cause in
> time, but it must have an ultimate cause outside of time, a non-temporal
> cause.
>
> Assuming the laws of physics allow such an infinite chain to exist, I
> think a more important question is where do those laws originate?
>
> That is, the "something" that we're wondering about includes whatever
> makes what physically exists the way it is.
>
>

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