John,

    Hi.  What I was trying to get at is that the most fundamental unit of 
existence and the most fundamental instantiation of the word exists is the 
existent entity that is, I think, incorrectly called the "absolute 
lack-of-all".  That is when you say "therefore nothing exists", what I mean 
is that this "absolute lack-of-all" is identical to "something".  I'm not  
sure how  trying to explain why a thing exists and why "nothing" is 
actually not the lack of all existent entities but is instead a "something" 
drains "exists" of any usefulness?
    Thanks.

                    Roger 

        

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:54:42 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:56 AM, 'Roger' via Everything List <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> > I propose that a thing exists if it is a grouping or relationship 
>> present defining what is contained within.
>>
>
> If nothing is contained within then that is very well defined, therefore 
> nothing exists.  Something obviously also exists, but if both something and 
> nothing exist then there is no contrast and the word "exists" is drained of 
> all usefulness.  
>
>   John K Clark
>
>

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