On 13 December 2014 at 10:23, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/12/2014 11:33 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> The point is that none of these previous events involved such rapid
>> change as we're seeing now, but even if they did, so what? We know what's
>> going on, it isn't hard to monitor. We've known how the greenhouse effect
>> works for more than 2 centuries, we can measure the amount of carbon
>> dioxide in the atmosphere, we know it's gone up just over 40% since the
>> industrial revolution, we have a reasonable model of the likely results -
>> not perfect of course for such a complex system, but we're seeing the sorts
>> of results that have been predicted. Ice melting over the arctic, glaciers
>> retreating, sea levels rising, more extreme weather and now a disruption to
>> the jet stream. If this was, for example, the detection of a new
>> astronomical object or fundamental particle there wouldn't be any question
>> about whether it existed.
>>
>
> Exactly so.  But if the new astronomical object were an asteriod that was
> predicted to hit the Earth in 20yrs and preventing this would require some
> effort and expense on the part of the rich and comfortable there would be
> deniers pointing out that many objects have struck the Earth in the past
> and life survived and besides it will probably just strike the ocean and
> nobody but environmental elitists care about the ocean and it's really just
> a hoax by astronomers to make them rich and we all know that those orbital
> mechanics programs can be tweaked to give any answer you want and besides
> the asteroid may contain precious metals we can mine and if it hit the
> middle east wouldn't we all be better off anyway and let's just wait
> because we're sure to invent some magic bullet to solve this problem in the
> next 19yrs.
>
> True. That is simultaneously amusing and terrifying.

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