On 20 December 2014 at 16:15, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
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> The criminals may or may not be armed. But the flaw in your reasoning is
> that the laws would serve only to disarm the law abiding good people, not
> the criminals for which possession is already out later.
>

Reducing the number of guns in society reduces the chances of anyone having
weapons.

>
>
> The total number of gun related injuries and deaths in the US is massively
> greater per person than anywhere else in the first world.
>
>
> That's largely a factor of gang on gang crime, which is a result of our
> drug laws, not gun laws. If you factor those out we have a remarkably low
> murder rate.
>

You jest.

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> A recent Harvard study found no correlation between number of guns in a
> country and gun murders:
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> http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
>
> Unlike all the other studies which do? You can find similar studies for
climate change too if you look hard enough. Here's a summary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


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> You ought to be more afraid of the concentration of guns in the hands of
> the few, governments killed 100 million of their own people in the past
> century, far more than victims of gun crimes or accidents combined.
> Something the decentralization of arms might have limited.
>

Yeah I'm scared of that too, but two wrongs don't make a right.

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> Ending the world can hardly be argued defense, though the threat of ending
> the world arguably can be. That said, they're defensive for nations not
> individuals.
>

Yes that's right it was the threat that was the defence. And the last time
I looked, nations are made of individuals.

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> > Sadly, however, this isn't the case with guns, where there is an idea
> that having more lethal weapons around makes you safer.
>
> Like it or not, your life is protected daily by people with guns. When
> someone breaks into your house, will you not call on men with guns?
>
> No. I would call the police, not the army. (And the chances are fairly
good that whoever broke in wouldn't have a gun either.)

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