On Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:57:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote: > > On Sunday, December 21, 2014 3:17:15 AM UTC+5:45, [email protected] > wrote: > > On Friday, December 19, 2014 11:48:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote:So a close > friend of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova in it. It's > not a sci fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary but provides > a nice backdrop to the literary main fare. I've read the manuscript and > though I'm no astrophysicist I can see his science is full of glaring flaws > - for example the star causes an aurora! And gamma ray headaches... Anyway > he needs an astrophysicist or similar to help him with these details and I > said I'd ask on here if anyone would be prepared to help. He's a full time > author and a serious writer. His last novel has been translated into > several languages and was long listed for Australia's biggest literary > award, the Miles Franklin. So you wouldn't be helping some mug with an > unpublishable manuscript. The book is good. > > > > > > Science literate, Physics Factual, story telling, is FICTION. He doesn't > need to worry what current physics says a supernova is all about. He dreams > a consistent worldview that is shocking and unsettling, that leaves nothing > as we imagined. That's science fiction. The framework of real accurate > scientific knowledge is the genius author barometer of his worldview being > equally consistent with empirical observation as the incumbent world view. > More and better is incumbent worldview to the same detail explained equally > well by his worldview. > > > > > > I think the imagery of the loneliest theory as the one most true, > resorting to lonely hearts coloumbs of planet earth for an astrophysicist > or anyone remaining still curious what is really true. No one has a lot of > time for it these days. The truth will be tolerated in small POLITE > doses Conditioned on reciprocity of equal acknowledgement of diversely > ranging perspectives of Truth. Otherwise, Truth is despicable.....and an > embarrassing association with potential for future blowbacks of the most > career limiting variety. > > > > > > Oh yay! The stuff of intrepid truth seekers spread out before us; the > stuff is all asunder; above below and under; the EVERYTHING LIST. > > > > > > YES. YES. YES IT IS HERE ----> BUT OH THANKY FOOK THE TRUE WORLD VIEW > HAPPENED TO COINCIDE IN OUR TIME WITH WHAT IS ALLOWED TO SAY, AND ALL THAT > IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAY IS ALL THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE UNTRUTH. THANK > GOODNESS...because were things different then what a bunch of craven > traitorous cowards you'd pretend the other not to be, for reciprocated > sensitivity. > > > > > > Ooops...sorry. Lost the struggle with schizophrenia once again. I > apologize. I obviously did not mean anything literally or truly. It was > just because I trusted you. I trust you. This does not end with you. There > are many worlds. Many worlds. Seek others out. Just do what you can. Do > what you can. > > Okaaaay... Well thanks for that. I think. He's willing to be somewhat > loose with the science but on the other hand he wants it to be passably > plausible to a scientifically educated reader. Btw I disagree on your > definition of science fiction. Many sci fi authors aim for a very high > level if scientific accuracy. Of course there are many exceptions (most > popular sci fi films and tv for example). > > of course high standards and accuracy. As you say this is a must because saying something dumb in a fiction really kills the magic...it's a killer. We all know it's making up a story.... but on some level we are not enthuisiastic for sitting there reading and reading and reading, a mind not superior to our own. Or illusion that way. Which makes everyone probably much too harsh about gaffes and gross ignorance of the cosmos.
I said as much, but I was incoherent and slightly psycho at the time. All I was saying was the accuracy is a must at the empirical, settled measurement end of cosmology. The things likely to be largely true and not moving much in the future. Like the nearest star being 4 light years or whatever. But accuracy in terms of abstract theory...incumbent or not....well it depends how far in the future you are supposed to be. It isn't very plausible being 150 ly enjoying champagne supernovas in the sky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU in a world devoid of ball busting fuck-me-that-cannot-be-true moments in science that leave everything on the floor save dicks nailed to the door. I mean...that is what happens in a moderate scientific revolution. not a lot is the same and won't be again. How do you figure for that in your accuracy goals? One way would be that you up your game to envisioning a consistent world view...that could be like the shape of the next worldview to come. Accuracy in that context would be in terms of your worldview being absolutely consistent with observations. And equally consistent with the abstract landscape, as incumbent abstract theory as now. Obviously not finished or actually theory at all. But a worldview good enough for a story. Especially NOW, because this is a bonafide magical moment in science. Every week more emerges on the cosmological stage our current thinking just cannot begin to accommodate. I would doubt hardly a single scientist in cosmology would strongly disagree with a statement like "our current best theories must clearly be accurate in some key levels and ways, but no less so they must all be fundamentally WRONG at other levels and ways. One being the very top most abstracted levels and all the concept frameworks found there. All of it has to be wrong because nothing is being accommodated very well and more totally brain lobotomized new research drives ever more cosmologists to the edge of beastly desire (strictly rootbeer and jellytots framed there) By the way..if that special friend is actually you....and if your plot is still early days.....perhaps you might entertain hitting on me in private. I've got a very good novel I want to see written. As you can see I have no ability for writing....entry level coherence is at 30% currently. But the novel plan, the science the story, the mystery and explanation, and the way everything comes together and boils. If you really can write or your little friend.....or even if you can't this much: it's a movie for sure. It's big movie. just gave a mention.....won't be holding my breath......I've got in-laws in the publishing promotions game so I should think I'll have some route to authors when the time comes. But spontaneity baby yeah....maybe it was hunky man-love, maybe fate baby yeah, you, me, your secret little friend...and my secret little friend that maybe I'd like to get some help and advice for due to his embarrassment and reclusiveness.....does anybody have any experience of small penis anxiety? My friend...has a tinsy tiny little love hammer.....should he man up and stand at the urinals with normal penis sized men? The wearing women's clothes and makeup just to sit down in private....well I'm he's come out in a rash...you know, there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
