On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:58:08 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
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> On Monday, December 22, 2014 9:21:40 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
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>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 6:13:59 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014  Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> > No one is denying that death results in oblivion. 
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>>> Then what are we arguing about?
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>>>> > But that is not the point.
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>>> It isn't?!   
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>>> > My claim was that no one has experienced oblivion. In common parlance, 
>>>> we routinely say that everyone experiences death at the end of their 
>>>> lives. 
>>>> Hence the distinction made between death and oblivion in this context.
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>>> So this entire death vs oblivion debate has nothing to do with the 
>>> nature of reality, it's about grammar and how one particular language out 
>>> of the 7000 in use on this planet happens to use 2 words. 
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>>> And as for the fear of death stuff, are we asked to believe that if you 
>>> learned right now that tomorrow morning at 9am a firing squad was going to 
>>> put several bullets into your brain you wouldn't be the slightest bit 
>>> apprehensive and would go to bed tonight just as you always do and sleep 
>>> like a baby without a care in the world?
>>>
>>>  John K Clark
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>> iou'd have to read his posts rom the start, They exhibit some of th e 
>> stupidest implausible claims a lot of people will ever see.  
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>> sorry about that....I fell asleep midsentence. I was going to sum up 
>> Bruce's spread of death depictions as one long basically would fail turning 
>> test. But then Bruce does this runaway paragraph...running away with 
>> himself with creaatve captures of fear. 
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> So he goes from, max cady to Robert Burns in his ability empathy fear. 
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> He describes fear very well. but it's not the way I feel fear. People get 
> it differently. One of my old pals...he absolutely fearless climbling, 
> on motorcycles, in a car...but he one explained and anyway  well understood 
> by then, being in a fist fight terrified him...he would beg he would cry. 
> Despite the injuries aren't usually that bad, compared toi some i'd seen my 
> mate  endure. 
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> In his case he'd learned to bluff real good. Good bluffers normally 
> experience fear the way Brent described. Sounded plausible to me. the 
> bluffer has to deliver his lines or his cold steely gaze as if ompletely 
> calm. The bluffer knows in seconds whether he's puling it off or bas made a 
> mistake. Bluffers have to be good at going into reverse damn quick. The 
> bluff ontineus, but now its about bluffing that he just came in there to 
> say sorry or whatever. 
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> Which if the bluffer made a mistake, that means the other guy is hardman. 
> Which is the bluffers second blessing  if they reverse quicik enough. A 
> hardman sees both bluffs, sees the fear, and goes from angry to bored. 
> Bluffers aren't interesting people. Unless after all that bluff...there's 
> something special. My pal was special....a decent person. A gentleman. 
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forgot to run the conclusion about bruce. Yeah, he was obviously describing 
his own fear..that Robert burns piece. It's very common.....get bullied a 
lot while kid, and you know you're in yur mid 50's bullshitting about 
fearlessness. Implausibly. I seen that before. 

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