On Friday, December 26, 2014 7:25:01 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
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> On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:23:56 AM UTC, Bruce wrote:
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>> John Clark wrote: 
>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Bruce Kellett 
>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >             >>> I wouldn't fear death even then. 
>> > 
>> >         > > Then you're either the bravest man who ever lived or you're 
>> >         full of bullshit. I think it's far more likely that you're full 
>> >         of bullshit. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >      > A lot of people have faced firing squads with calm dignity. 
>> > 
>> > Some may have been dignified but I am quite certain in every single 
>> case 
>> > their heart rate was elevated over what it would have been had they not 
>> > been facing a firing squad. And no doubt you have played the scene over 
>> > in your mind but do you really think your musings about what it would 
>> be 
>> > like to face a firing squad have the slightest relation to the reality 
>> > of actually facing a  firing squad? You may be certain how you'd react 
>> > in a life or death situation, but as I've said being certain and being 
>> > correct are not the same thing; I don't think we have good simulation 
>> > software in our brain for that sort of thing and thus nobody can know 
>> > how they'd behave in such a extreme situation until that it actually 
>> > happened. 
>> > 
>> >      > I don't think I am particularly brave, 
>> > 
>> > You know something, I don't either. 
>> > 
>> >      > but the thought of death itself -- being dead, that is -- does 
>> >     not frighten me in the least. 
>> > 
>> > Bullshit. 
>>
>> On what basis do you call what I have said, Bullshit? It is the sober 
>> truth. If you don't believe me then the problem is yours, not mine. 
>>
>>
>> >     As I said, if you have dependants you would worry about the effect 
>> >     on them. But that does not mean that you would fear for yourself. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Well I guess you're just a selfless hero then. 
>>
>> Maybe that makes you the craven coward. 
>>
>> Bruce 
>>
>
> Bruce...you surely do appreciate what is the source of the scepticism? 
> None which make your testimony any the less authentic. But because 
> it's...just....possible you are not aware. Perhaps you are relatively new 
> to the "Internet Life". I dunno....I'm trying to help here is all I know. 
>
> OK, so it's not about the sentiments. And it's not about, that every 
> day.....every minute of every day...someone, somewhere, does something just 
> so decent and courageous, all who stand in witness of it are different - 
> and better - men from that day forward. 
>
> It's not about that. 
>
> It's about making claims in a medium that makes it impossible for those 
> claims to be backed up and verified. 
>
> It's just one of those things decent people learn with much experience, 
> that perhaps you do not yet have. What we learn is that we don't disrespect 
> ourselves or those others - who have done brave things in this disgustingly 
> cowardly little shithole world. We don't disrespect them, by...we don't 
> make claims about ourselves...even if they are true......that a LIAR could 
> make and get away with. We just don't do it dude. 
>
> By the way, I'm an ex Artists Rifles nutter bastard. I only make that 
> claim because given what I said above you'd have to conclude it was humour. 
> But actually it ain't. But you still gotta assume it. Artists Rifles. 21 A 
> squadron...Chelsea barracks old boy. We can be heros baby. You and me.  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgcc5V9Hu3g
>
> you and me baby
>

the artists rifles thing was bare faced lying, naturally; but I feel I was 
being authentically dishonest; the non-opportunistic, non-poor impulse 
control, more traditional what-you-see-is-what you-get burglar bill sack o 
swag, car head lines turn the hedge over in a tsunami of shadow. The peanut 
cranium and close set eyes under a single eyebrow: the inferior racial 
characteristics of the criminal mind. 

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