On 12/30/2014 5:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Dec 2014, at 01:38, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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>>The Soviet union can be formally considered a "democracy". There is nothing external
or formal that may distinguish a democracy from any other regime. Since every modern
state has the same elements. All of them use the momenclature of the age. The word
democracy is the most overused world in this century togeter with "scientific".
No word comes close to matching the overuse of the word "god" however.
Yes, ... and no.
For the greeks "God" was just a pointer to the truth we are searching,
For the greeks it was God(s) and they were persons.
through theories and observation. It led to math and physics, + inquiry about which one
is more fundamental, and what might still be beyond math and physics. That use of God
remains in some language expression, like when we say "only God knows", which means "I
don't know".
It means "Nobody knows." God=nobody.
Then, when the science "theology" has been recuperated by politics, and when religion
get institutionalized, the term God has become the name of some hero in some fairy tale,
Like "Zeus" and "Poseid0n" and "Hermes" and "Jupiter".
and the science behind has been put under the rug, and is still taboo today (which I can
understand for the Church's employee, but not for the atheists, which should on the
contrary be open to the coming back to reason in that field.
The field of "the truth we are searching"? They never left that field. Most scientists
are atheists. There is no field of theology because it is the study of imaginary beings
who know what nobody knows. Theology is the proganda arm of religion.
Eventually I conclude that atheism is *really* the religious mirror of christianity.
They have the same notion of God (even if it is used only to be denied) and they have
the same notion of primary matter (modulo some details).
Exactly. The same notion of "God" used by everybody who prays to a god, has faith in a
god, and has a religion based on a god. Atheists are quite clear on what sort of being
they do not believe exists and you are the only person I know who seems to think it is a
fault to be clear about ones meaning.
Brent
So God is both not enough used (it means the unknown fundamental reality, simply) and
overused (idolatry, blasphems, argument by terror (like with hell), etc.).
Bruno
-Chris
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