On 01 Jan 2015, at 02:39, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/31/2014 5:27 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:46 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 12/31/2014 4:22 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 31 Dec 2014, at 6:17 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
Eventually I conclude that atheism is *really* the religious
mirror of christianity. They have the same notion of God (even
if it is used only to be denied) and they have the same notion
of primary matter (modulo some details).
Exactly. The same notion of "God" used by everybody who prays
to a god, has faith in a god, and has a religion based on a
god. Atheists are quite clear on what sort of being they do not
believe exists and you are the only person I know who seems to
think it is a fault to be clear about ones meaning.
Brent
So atheists therefore leave the door open to definitions of God
other than the ones for which they have been clear there is no
evidence? Is that what you are saying? I don't think So.
Neither do I. "God" has a fairly clear common meaning,
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........nope
Watch a few dozen of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTztSJ-0yYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJUn_kSAvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0rZ2zeEKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5pN6RoFOs
It must be an amazing coincidence that all these people seem to have
a similar understanding of the term.
That would be the case with Earth is flat, if we did not progress and
abandon the argument per-authority in the field.
Atheists believes so much in the christian God that they defend the
dogma, instead of improving the concept.
You confirm my theory: atheists are christian in disguise, or at least
their de facto ally.
but when I want to be really precise I may say "Abrahamic God" or
"God of monotheism".
Why not go the whole hog and really nail it: Aristotle's Matter
God. It comes to that, surely. The buck stops here. With God. You
cannot pass the problem further down the line! No further thinking
possible or required. Act. Once the G word is used in thinking,
it's kind of like the sound of a rifle being cocked. Trouble is G
is always on my side and I'm maybe halfway insane as it is.
What about the definition of God that you don't pray to, don't
have faith in, don't know of any religion about? Are atheists OK
with that, are they?
Like "God is love."
That's fine. Can't see any problems with that.
or "God is goodness."
Depends who G's showering the goodness on. What if I don't like them?
or "God is money."
Yes, the Wolf of Wall Street really rammed that home.
I'm OK with metaphor. As to the god(s) of religions I don't know
about...well, I don't know about them.
I'll let you get away with that barefaced lie Brent Meeker only
because it is Xmas, NY and in addition, my birthday.
You think I'm lying that I don't know about the gods of religions I
don't know about?? There used to be Church in Dallas whose doctrine
was that God is whatever is good. That's a God you can at least
root for (one of the things that is good is being tax exempt).
OK; but it is still not serious theology, although a slight progress
in mind flexibility.
Bruno
Brent
I hope you are able to catch a run of the Sydney fireworks online
somewhere - always a bog boom
HNY
Kim
Brent
And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?"
They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of
the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of
the context of our very selfhood revealed."
And Jesus replied, "What??"
Love it. Love it.
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