> On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
>> Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values 
>> and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking. 
>> Lifting a cup to your lips to swallow a liquid requires no thinking. The 
>> skill is embedded since infancy, so it is with savants.
> 
> But there's not a sharp distinction. 


Does there have to be? Must Nature make sharp distinctions to please Man? 
Perception is data-gathering, thinking is data-processing. There. Howzat? Seems 
pretty razor-sharp to me....



> Many skills must be developed thoughtfully and then they can become automatic.


Yes. A skill is learnt consciously over time to create the algorithm which is 
like feeling your way into it. But the skill is then increasingly applied 
automatically, routinely, instinctively, reflexively - it's downshifted in 
terms of the neuronal loading required to activate the pattern. There is - if 
you prefer 'first stage' thinking and 'second stage' thinking. The difference 
between recognising something and deciding what to do about it if we want to 
boil it down. 




>   Riding a bicycle is the paradigmatic case, but it probably applies to 
> drinking from cup too.


Absolutely. 

No one ever learnt to ride a bike with an instruction manual in one hand. 

You get on the bike you fall off the bike. You get on the bike you fall off the 
bike. You get on the bike you fall off the bike. You get on the bike you fall 
off the bike. You get on the bike you stay on the bike, you etc...

I think we are here right up against (once again, sigh) intelligence and 
competency. The better you are at a skill, the more competent you are (at that 
skill, possibly in other ways if there is transferability of that skill). You 
no longer need to think about it. Intelligence (speed of pattern recognition) 
not necessary or less necessary. 


K

> 
> Brent
> The nipple is the only truly intuitive interface.

Also the very first. All other subsequent interfaces in life are therefore 
required to exhibit "nipple-like" intuitiveness in their design. Basically the 
goal of life is to be on the tit in some sense. 



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