On 1/14/2015 3:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:56 PM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 1/14/2015 12:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On 1/14/2015 6:25 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
        In Buddhism: Samantabhadra Buddha declares of itself:
        "I am the core of all that exists. I am the seed of all that exists. I 
am the
        cause of all that exists. I am the trunk of all that exists. I am the
        foundation of all that exists. I am the root of existence. I am "the 
core"
        because I contain all phenomena. I am "the seed" because I give birth to
        everything. I am "the cause" because all comes from me. I am "the trunk"
        because the ramifications of every event sprout from me. I am "the 
foundation"
        because all abides in me. I am called "the root" because I am 
everything."

        Various thinkers over time have, apparently through reason, come to a 
similar
        conclusion:

        "Geometry existed before the creation, it is co-eternal with the mind 
of God,
        Geometry provided god with a model for creation, Geometry is God 
himself." --
        Kepler

        "To all of us who hold the Christian belief that God is truth, anything 
that
        is true is a fact about God, and mathematics is a branch of theology."  
--
        Hilda Phoebe Hudson

        "I would say with those who say ‘God is Love’, God is Love.  But deep 
down in
        me I used to say that though God may be Love, God is Truth above all.  
If it
        is possible for the human tongue to give the fullest description of 
God, I
        have come to the conclusion that God is Truth.  Two years ago I went a 
step
        further and said that Truth is God.  You will see the fine distinction 
between
        the two statements, ‘God is Truth’ and ‘Truth is God’.  I came to that
        conclusion after a continuous and relentless search after truth which 
began
        fifty years ago." -- Gandhi

        And how are all your examples different than "God is money" or "God is 
power"
        or "God is a bearded dude in the clouds"  They are just instances of a 
simple
        formula: "I think X is really important and deserving of your 
adulation.  So
        God is X"


    No, they provide (potentially verifiable) answers to the question of what 
exists
    beyond the physical reality and why it exists at all (assuming it does and 
is not
    an illusion of consciousness), particularly those God definitions which you 
cut
    from your reply.




            Some people say "God is love", Bruno says "God is unprovable 
truths.",
            Paul Tillich said "God is whatever you value most."  But just 
because
            somebody says "Unicorns are rhinocereses" doesn't mean I have to 
start
            believing unicorns exist, or that that when I say unicorns don't 
exist I'm
            denying the existence of rhinocereses.


        Do you believe in a source of reality beyond the apparent physical 
reality we
        find ourselves in now?

        No.  I don't "believe IN" anything.  I entertain hypotheses.


    So then you're merely entertaining the hypothesis that no theistic God 
exists,
    rather than being a true atheist who would "believe IN" "no theistic god 
exists"

    I don't believe any theistic God exists - and so I'm an a-theist.


Having no beliefs is agnostic.

No, an agnostic not only doesn't know, but thinks it's impossible to know, per 
#5 below.

Brent


adjective
4.
of or relating to agnostics or their doctrines, attitudes, or beliefs.
5.
asserting the uncertainty of all claims to knowledge.
6.
holding neither of two opposing positions:
If you take an agnostic view of technology, then it becomes clear thatyour decisions to implement one solution or another should be drivenby need.

Jason
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