On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:59 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> What is behind the idea of the sun, what exactly is the sun? I don't know >> but I do know that the sun is not the heat on my face nor is it a image on >> my retina nor is it a idea in my mind, it is something more fundamental >> than that and more abstract. >> > > ?? Shouldn't that be "more concrete"? > No it should not. The only things we have direct experience with, the only things we know for sure and that are really concrete are sensations and ideas about them; we may not know if the ideas are correct but at least we know they are ideas, but the thing behind those sensations exists at a deeper layer of abstraction. I can have ideas about the center of the sun but am very unlikely to ever experience it, so it's more abstract. But actually it's even worse than that. The appearance of something is not the same as the thing, the thing itself is far more abstract. The sound of broken glass is not broken glass, the look of broken glass is not broken glass, the feel of broken glass is not broken glass. What "IS" broken glass? I don't know exactly but whatever it is unlike a sound or a feeling or a Image or a idea I don't have direct experience with it, I can only theorize about the thing itself, and that means it exists at a deeper layer of abstraction than thoughts or sensations from the senses. John K Clark > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see how you can ostensively define something that's abstract. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
