On 1/14/2015 4:57 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 AM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:On 1/14/2015 3:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote:On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:56 PM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 1/14/2015 12:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 1/14/2015 6:25 AM, Jason Resch wrote:In Buddhism: Samantabhadra Buddha declares of itself: "I am the core of all that exists. I am the seed of all that exists. I am the cause of all that exists. I am the trunk of all that exists. I am the foundation of all that exists. I am the root of existence. I am "the core" because I contain all phenomena. I am "the seed" because I give birth to everything. I am "the cause" because all comes from me. I am "the trunk" because the ramifications of every event sprout from me. I am "the foundation" because all abides in me. I am called "the root" because I am everything." Various thinkers over time have, apparently through reason, come to a similar conclusion: "Geometry existed before the creation, it is co-eternal with the mind of God, Geometry provided god with a model for creation, Geometry is God himself." -- Kepler "To all of us who hold the Christian belief that God is truth, anything that is true is a fact about God, and mathematics is a branch of theology." -- Hilda Phoebe Hudson "I would say with those who say ‘God is Love’, God is Love. But deep down in me I used to say that though God may be Love, God is Truth above all. If it is possible for the human tongue to give the fullest description of God, I have come to the conclusion that God is Truth. Two years ago I went a step further and said that Truth is God. You will see the fine distinction between the two statements, ‘God is Truth’ and ‘Truth is God’. I came to that conclusion after a continuous and relentless search after truth which began fifty years ago." -- GandhiAnd how are all your examples different than "God is money" or "God is power" or "God is a bearded dude in the clouds" They are just instances of a simple formula: "I think X is really important and deserving of your adulation. So God is X" No, they provide (potentially verifiable) answers to the question of what exists beyond the physical reality and why it exists at all (assuming it does and is not an illusion of consciousness), particularly those God definitions which you cut from your reply.Some people say "God is love", Bruno says "God is unprovable truths.", Paul Tillich said "God is whatever you value most." But just because somebody says "Unicorns are rhinocereses" doesn't mean I have to start believing unicorns exist, or that that when I say unicorns don't exist I'm denying the existence of rhinocereses. Do you believe in a source of reality beyond the apparent physical reality we find ourselves in now?No. I don't "believe IN" anything. I entertain hypotheses. So then you're merely entertaining the hypothesis that no theistic God exists, rather than being a true atheist who would "believe IN" "no theistic god exists"I don't believe any theistic God exists - and so I'm an a-theist. Having no beliefs is agnostic.No, an agnostic not only doesn't know, but thinks it's impossible to know, per #5 below.I don't see how uncertainty implies impossibility. If I'm uncertain it will rain tomorrow, this doesn't imply impossibility of rain for tomorrow. PGC
It implies it is impossible to know it will rain tomorrow. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
