On 25 Jan 2015, at 06:52, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
Roger: It's possible that what we see as existing is a simulation in
some other computer. But, even if we are a simulation, the
simulation that is us exists as does the computer and the code we're
a simulation in. My thinking is aimed at trying to figure out there
are existent entities, whether we call them simulations, singular
arithmetic computations/propositions, or whatever, instead of there
not being existent entities.
Existence and non-existence can be viewed as different perspectives
on nothing…. existence and non-existence are emergent and understood
in dialectic opposition to each other… they arise out of each other,
and are defined in terms of each other.
-Chris
Chris,
I totally agree and that's what I've been trying to get at in my
thinking and at the website. Well put!
And Peter Sas presents a similar idea, and maybe that idea could lead
to the winner of the measure, who knows?, but what is sure is that if
you make that idea precise enough, it will have to be Turing
universal, if only to get the computers and the ability to run them
(and taking the MGA into account)
I am not sure you want to play the game of making things precise, like
formalizing it in some logic, or in some know theory. No problem,
except that nothing is for me a bit like No-god, it means nothing
without a precision on the word "thing" or "god".
The semantic of the empty theory is the class of all realities, in
logic, so everything and nothing are dual, but we need to make the
thing precise, and some laws on them, to explains precisely how
something becomes apparent to conscious entities, and seems lawful,
partially sharable, etc. I mean if you want make a testable theory.
Bruno
Roger
https://sites.google.com/site/whydoesanythingexist/
and a more detailed explanation along with more philosophical stuff
and a beginning model is at:
https://sites.google.com/site/ralphthewebsite/
(click on 3rd link down)
While we are working on different models, it's been a great
discussion. Thanks.
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