On 29 January 2015 at 13:38, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1/28/2015 1:52 AM, LizR wrote: > > Machines (Humanly Constructed Artifacts) Cannot Think > <http://edge.org/response-detail/26060> > <http://edge.org/memberbio/arnold_trehub> > Arnold Trehub <http://edge.org/memberbio/arnold_trehub> > > > > Well, I have an answer to this one, at least. Humans are machines - are, > in fact, humanly constructed artifacts - hence whether machines can think > is the same as whether humans can think. > > Has anyone seen "The Imitation Game" by the way? > > > I saw it and liked it, even though it distorted his story quite a bit. I > wish it had included more about the imitation game and his ideas about AI. > As it is I think many movie goers will come away thinking that the > imitation refers only to him pretending to be straight. >
Yes I wished more of Turing's ideas could have been included, but it would probably have been a bit confusing for the average filmgoer. I agree about your interpretation of how "the imitation game" will sound to most people, even though it's true meaning* was mentioned towards the end, but I think that was intentional - there was some subtext and metaphor involved. > > Interestingly, Scott Aaronson recently blogged about asking his doctor for > a prescription to chemically castrate himself because as a teenage nerd his > desire for the opposite sex was so frustrating and hopeless that he thought > perhaps with chemical help he could just concentrate on mathematics and > computer science. The doctor talked him out of it. > Ah, that reminds me of the Dilbert cartoon which asks - why do apparently hopeless people like Dilbert go through all the angst of being unable to form relationships? The last frame is heartwarming, with the caption "...because sometimes, it works". I should know, my other half is a class A nerd, but as a bit of a girl geek I admire the size of a man's intellect more than any other attributes (although when he puts his shirt on inside out to go to work, that can get me a bit riled up). *OK not the true true meaning - of trying to find out which gender someone is. But the "Turing test" meaning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
