On 2/2/2015 8:26 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    > I believe you're wrong to assume intelligence=>consciousness.  That may 
be an accident


If consciousness was just a lucky accident Evolution would ensure that it didn't exist for long.

Only if it cost something to maintain consciousness and only if there were a biologically cheaper way to achieve intelligence by eliding consciousness that could be reached by a series of mutations each of which was either advantageous or neutral.

The same sort of thing you've maintained in other contexts.

Conscious does not effect behavior (that's why the Turing Test doesn't work) so it doesn't enhance survival, so from Evolution's point of view it would be as useless as eyes are for cave animals, and it would disappear in a dozen generations or so due to genetic drift just as the eyes of cave animals did.

    > of how carbon-based life developed intelligence.


So carbon atoms are conscious but silicon atoms are not. Well... I can't prove that's wrong but I really think it is.

If you think atoms are conscious you're more mystic than Bruno.

Brent

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