On 25 February 2015 at 15:00, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 , LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> > skeptical atheism appears to be based on faith.
>>
>
> I see, so belief in God  is based on faith and so is doubts about the
> existence of God, but for a word to be meaningful there must be contrast,
> so your need to point out something, anything, that is NOT based on faith.
> And if you can't do that then "faith" is nothing but a noise made by the
> mouth.
>

You might have done me the courtesy of giving the entire quote, so the
context was clear. But I suppose you couldn't do that because it would have
meant the point you're trying to make would have been revealed as a straw
man.

Here is that troublesome quote in full.

Or, to put it more epistemically, skeptical atheism appears to be based on
> faith. *It is based on the faith that our present ideologies will be
> preserved by final science.* Current physicalism may turn out to be as
> delusory as Abrahamic theology.
> -- Eric Steinhart, "Skeptical and Spiritual Atheisms"


A genuine sceptic (and a genuine scientist) is agnostic about what the
final science may turn out to be, if we ever get there. (Brent tries to be,
for example, as do I). What Mr Steinhart is saying is that "skeptical
atheists" as he calls them are making a metaphysical assumption about the
nature of reality - which is, precisely, an act of faith.

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