On 4/1/2015 5:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:12, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    On 4/1/2015 5:05 PM, LizR wrote:
    On 2 April 2015 at 13:02, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
    <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

        On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM, LizR wrote:
        On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
        <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

            On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:

                So how does every other country in the world manage to have 
less guns
                per person than the USA? Magic?

            For one thing they're poorer.  The number of households with a gun 
is far
            smaller than the number of guns.

        What, all other countries are poorer than the US?

        Of course not.  I'm just pointing out one of the factors.  Some, like
        Switzerland, are richer...and have a higher percentage of households 
with guns.


    So are you saying that there is a correlation between the per-capita income 
of a
    country and the number of households with guns? If so, have you got some 
stats?
    Yes, but I'm pointing out that the correlation is in part driven by the 
expense of
    buying a gun and ammunition.  So people in Bangladesh or Chad are not 
likely to buy
    a rifle for sport or hunting.  Whereas the US people that buy a rifle for 
sport or
    hunting tend to also have another rifle for target shooting and a shotgun 
or two and
    a couple of pistols.  That's why, although the number to guns in the US has 
gone up,
    the number of households with a gun has gone down.


So what about  Europe, Canada, Svalbard, etc?

I do of course agree with your point on a broad scale. I normally only say that the USA has more guns per person than other countries in the first world, since I assume the first world is roughly on a par economically. So income inequality may partially explain the gap between the USA and India, but not between the USA and the UK.

Sure there are obviously cultural and legal differences too. I was in Sydney on the day of the Port Arthur massacre. I gathered that, before that, personal ownership of guns in Australia was fairly common and not much regulated. It motivated severe restrictions on and confiscation of privately owned guns.

I don't know about households (do the Swiss have more people per household than the US, or something? Or are you saying the map is wrong?) - this map only shows the average number of civilian-owned guns per capita.

So how did they count guns in Switzerland where all militia aged citizens are issued an assault rifle - which they can keep when they leave the militia at age 35?

Brent

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