Race is not religion for it is their religion that is the instigator,
specifically, theirs. Pedigree's are for dogs.
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Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!
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In his long rambling manifesto he spoke -- much like you do in fact Mitch, of a
clash of civilizations, and he saw himself as a defender of a Christian, Aryan
Norway, being overrun by brown people. I am just going by his own stated
motives, not your reinterpretation of what they must have been.
The actual crime stats speak of a different story most terrorist attacks, by
far-- in terms of numbers of incidences, but also in terms of overall damage,
injury and death, in the US and in the EU are not being perpetrated by
Islamicists, but by other kinds of extremists, including many various
separatist movements.
Hindus and Buddhists and Jews and Christians as well are committing acts of
terror; however in the Western press these rarely get reported as such; most
often the reports speak of a disturbed or deranged person, with no mention of
the fact that their derangement was centered in their Christian (Nationalist)
or other beliefs.
If you added up all the people who died as a result of terrorist acts over the
last 50 years do you think it would even come close to the number of just
Americans who get violently murdered each and every single year?
In the year 2013 you were more likely to die as the result of being man
slaughtered by a toddler with a gun in this country than you were likely to get
murdered by a terrorist.
I am trying to put all this brouhaha into some kind of perspective. It is so
far down the stack of imminent threats this world actually faces; kind of makes
you wonder why it gets so much attention and is presented as being our most
pressing problem.
What's the agenda? And whose agenda is it?
We have here a case of selective memory. Brevik was indeed a Nazi (no
surprise there) but you do notice that all his victims were Norwegian
socialists? His motive was revenge against his fellow countrymen, not Muslims
living in Norway, which he could have easily attacked. It's impossible to truly
see Brevik as a church goer, even in the Nazi WW2 German Lutheran style. You
forget the Islamist attacks in Madrid 2004 which killed 191 and the subway
attack in London which killed, and 52 dead in the London tube attacks. If
Hindus were committing mass murder all over the world, we'd be talking about
them instead of believers in Muhammad. It's purely practical to focus on the
Islamists and there's no easy resolution to this war (which it is). I can bring
up the London beheading, and hundreds of other jihad attack. In the 70's I
could have pointed out the IRA, Red Army Fraction, Bader Meinhoff types, or the
Chilean military bombing in DC. The Islamists are super well funded and are
motivated by a promise of eternity.
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona
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Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!
All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and Venezuela as well as with ties
with islamism. The basque terrorists in the 70s trained together with the
Palestinian terrorists LPO (in the valley of the Becca) and with argelian
communists.
Please be informed.
Was the right-wing Christian fanatic Norwegian terrorist Anders
who mass murdered (77 people injuring hundreds more) scores of Norwegians in a
car bomb, followed by a cold blooded execution style gunning down of unarmed
teenagers in 2011, and who acted in the name of his Christian supremacist
ideology also --- covertly somehow also an Islamic terrorist?
Was the train station bombing in Bologna Italy, which along with
the afore mentioned Norwegian act of mass terrorism ranks as Europes worst post
WWII act of terrorism, was that act perpetrated by Islamicists (or was it
rather perpetrated by shadowy groups linked to the P2 lodge and to Operation
Gladio?)
Inform yourself, yourself!
The two single largest acts of terrorism in post WWII Europe
both committed by far right (and in the case of the Bologna bombing also
implicating a shadowy paramilitary organization called Operation Gladio).
In the US, was Timothy McVeigh also a crypto Muslim of sorts? Or
was that mass murder act of terrorism also driven by an extremist right wing
ideology?
Me thinks, it is rather more yourself that needs to inform
themselves, seminarian.
Chris
In the other side nobody says that all the terrorists are Muslims. You both may
be a little off of reality guys. What children literature do you read?.
There are alaso a great number of extreme left terrorist that has diminished
since the defeat of the USSR. But there remain a lot of nostalgics of that era
that populate the centers of power. And even the discussion lists.
2015-04-01 0:06 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
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From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html
> “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists
are Muslims.” How many times have you heard that one?
Once.
> Why don’t we see
Christian, Buddhist, or Jewish terrorists?
We do. Religion poisons everything.
No argument form me on that point. However a really
surprising quantity of terrorist acts (at least in Europe) are from one of the
many separatist militant groups operating in that continent, in such places
such as Corsica, the Basque regions etc. Places that have become folded into
one nation state or another with which they do not much get along.
Chris
John K Clark
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