On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote: > If you take the MWI seriously, then you are open to the possibility that > you are constantly being duplicated >
If the MWI is true then it's not a possibility it's a certainty > > Assuming you're like me, you perceive yourself as a single entity > travelling through time in the forward direction. > You? Mr. John Clark The Moscow Man will perceive a single entity, and Mr. John Clark the Washington Man will perceive a single entity, and Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man will no longer perceive anything at all. And John Clark is really starting to hate personal pronouns, as a exercise try writing a paragraph or at least a sentence without using any, it will do Telmo Menezes good. >> subjectively there is only one Stathis Papaioannou because they are >> identical. >> > > > Subjectively from whose perspective? > >From the only one that matters, from Stathis Papaioannou's perspective. Two identical Stathis Papaioannous running in parallel is subjectively identical to one. > > >> After the doors are opened they no longer are identical because they > see different things; one sees Moscow and becomes Mr. Stathis Papaioannou > The Moscow Man, and the other sees Washington and becomes Mr. Stathis > Papaioannou The Washington Man. > > But before the doors are opened and after the duplication, you can ask > them through the intercom to guess where they are. > The position of their brains is unimportant because until the door is opened both are still identical to the Helsinki Man. A much better question is to ask them to guess what will happen when the door opens. Both know with 100% certainty that photons will impinge on them and will change them, but they are uncertain if the photons will come from Moscow or from Washington. But this is just the classical old fashioned sort uncertainty that is due to simple lack of information, it's not inherent uncertainty of the Quantum Mechanical sort. Monty Hall always had the information about which door the car was behind, and the person on the other end of that intercom knows which parallel copy of Telmo Menezes will see photons coming from Moscow and turn into the Moscow Man and which will see photons coming from Washington and turn into the Moscow Man. But the information on if that atom of Carbon 14 will decay in the next hour is not just unknown the information does not exist, it's inherently uncertain. John K Clark > If they are forced to make a bet, you will find that they tend to be right > 1/2 of the time. > But the probability is about if the protons that come through that open door will come from Moscow, in which Mr. Telmo Menezes you will change > > This is all you're being asked to agree with. I can predict with 100% > certainty that it doesn't matter though, because > > you made your mind before giving the idea a chance. > > Telmo. > > >> >> John K Clark >> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.