Here's the clincher. 1. Suppose I erase my body's memories after. Do I go to jail?
2. Suppose I erase the memories of this body. I find another body (say a laboratory synthesized one with no memories) and download my memories onto it. Does the new body go to jail? 3. I commit a crime and then a buddy of mine, who had no knowledge of the crime decides he wants to experience my memories. He downloads the entirety of my memories while retaining his own. Does he go to jail? 4. I commit a crime, then I kidnap someone and forcibly download their memories onto my brain, retaining my own. I then delete their memories. Memory transfer technology is at such a stage that it is not possible to transfer or delete selected memories. So it is impossible to remove my memories without removing my victim's. Do I go to jail? 5. I commit a crime, then I kidnap someone and forcibly download my memories onto their brain, without erasing theirs. I then delete my memories. Memory transfer technology is at such a stage that it is not possible to transfer or delete selected memories. So it is impossible to remove my memories without removing my victim's. Does my kidnapped victim go to jail? At first glance, you want to say no to 1, but then someone could just backup their memories, leave themselves a note on where to restore them, and then waltz out of the country. Reminds me a bit of the anime Death Note. You want to say yes to 2, but that seems to entail saying yes to 3-5, and you really don't wanna say yes to 5. Even of you evade that entailment it seems your answers to 3-5 have to be the same On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:08:23 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Apr 2015, at 13:46, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On 24 April 2015 at 21:09, spudboy100 via Everything List > > <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Brussels-easy. You violated the law against murder there, only to > >> flee to > >> NYC. Like boarding a plane to NYC except quicker. Let us say a child > >> molester, attacks a young child in Brussel's and then teleports to > >> NYC to > >> escape. Whilst in NYC the molester from Brussels molests two other > >> young > >> children before he is captured. At this point should we hear the NYC > >> Molester saying. "That was not me! The Brussels molester died > >> whilst in > >> teleporting (by necessity). At this point should a jury even care? > >> > >> It does get fun if 300 versions of Stalin are produced, and only > >> 298 of the > >> clones commit mass murder post teleporting. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected] <javascript:>> > >> To: everything-list <[email protected] <javascript:>> > >> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 6:15 pm > >> Subject: crime and duplication machines > >> > >> My suspicion is that "personal identity" is a human concept that is > >> evolved > >> mainly to enforce social norms, and that it only works until > >> technologies > >> like duplication machines or mind uploading are created. To > >> illustrate this, > >> I propose a dilemma: > >> > >> Let's assume I murder someone and then get scanned in Brussels, and > >> reconstructed in Washington. Who should go to jail? > >> > >> What if I am destroyed in Brussels and reconstructed in Washington > >> and > >> Moscow? > > > > Copies should be punished only for things they did in their > > subjective past. > > Yes, and only if there are evidence that they commit it, and it was > not a dream. I have a heard about some people claiming to have killed > someone, but left free as they did not succeed in providing evidences. > > Your remark raises the question: can we condemn a person who has > killed someone, but is completely amnesic of the fact (according to > the nominated experts)? > > Bruno > > > > > > > > -- > > Stathis Papaioannou > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
