On 25 Apr 2015, at 04:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/24/2015 7:46 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Well, not only is the concept of personal identity, problematic, so
is the concept of guilt and free will. If I kill someone and I did
it because of the way I was born and the way my environment was
it's not my fault, and if I did it due to randomness it's not my
fault. So the practical solution to questions of crime and
punishment is to do what will deter crime. In particular, people
should be deterred from using copying and memory transfer to commit
crimes and avoid punishment.
Right. All the talk about guilt and free will and what God commands
and who's responsible are human inventions to control and order
societies that grew beyond extended families.
Guilt and free will can exist, like God without being (mis)used by
powers. But when the science is left in the hands of the Church,
progress are slow down, discoveries are hidden, etc.
Theology is the science which has this defect: the use of the
authoritative argument is the most grave, and the more easy, or hard
to not do, when communicating about it. All serious theologians are
aware of the difficulties, and usually do criticize from inside the
"authorities".
You must not confuse the domain of investigation, and the human
theories about it. In theology, we are still, even just compared to
the greek, in the age of fairy tales.
As long as scientist hides the problem under the rug, the fake
religion will keep the fake, but locally real, power.
Theoretical theology, like all theoretical sciences, can be done
without any ontological commitment.
Bruno
Brent
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