Bruno, if it's a genuine amnesia we do have a quandary (not us but future people) but what if, like the fellow in Matrix 1 said, "I want to remember nothing, Noth-thing!" in which case this is part of a conspiracy to obstruct justice. It reminds me of American comic, Steve Martin, who is past skits advised people to rob banks, but then inform the judge that, "I'm sorry, your honor, I didn't know it was illegal to rob a bank." If the Charlie Hebdo murderers were able to teleport from Paris to Baghdad, the secondaries (a term) would need to stand trial. How about 5000 mass murderers produced from a single killer? "Go ahead and pick one of us to execute! ha hah!" Having 500 replicas running around might make life more difficult. If the replicas are uploaded to an environment/virtual, then its a different story than teleportation. You can isolate unfriendly persons in virch space.
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Apr 24, 2015 12:08 pm Subject: Re: crime and duplication machines On 24 Apr 2015, at 13:46, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On 24 April 2015 at 21:09, spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Brussels-easy. You violated the law against murder there, only to >> flee to >> NYC. Like boarding a plane to NYC except quicker. Let us say a child >> molester, attacks a young child in Brussel's and then teleports to >> NYC to >> escape. Whilst in NYC the molester from Brussels molests two other >> young >> children before he is captured. At this point should we hear the NYC >> Molester saying. "That was not me! The Brussels molester died >> whilst in >> teleporting (by necessity). At this point should a jury even care? >> >> It does get fun if 300 versions of Stalin are produced, and only >> 298 of the >> clones commit mass murder post teleporting. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 6:15 pm >> Subject: crime and duplication machines >> >> My suspicion is that "personal identity" is a human concept that is >> evolved >> mainly to enforce social norms, and that it only works until >> technologies >> like duplication machines or mind uploading are created. To >> illustrate this, >> I propose a dilemma: >> >> Let's assume I murder someone and then get scanned in Brussels, and >> reconstructed in Washington. Who should go to jail? >> >> What if I am destroyed in Brussels and reconstructed in Washington >> and >> Moscow? > > Copies should be punished only for things they did in their > subjective past. Yes, and only if there are evidence that they commit it, and it was not a dream. I have a heard about some people claiming to have killed someone, but left free as they did not succeed in providing evidences. Your remark raises the question: can we condemn a person who has killed someone, but is completely amnesic of the fact (according to the nominated experts)? Bruno > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
