On Saturday, April 25, 2015, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 24 Apr 2015, at 13:46, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
>  On 24 April 2015 at 21:09, spudboy100 via Everything List
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Brussels-easy. You violated the law against murder there, only to flee to
>>> NYC. Like boarding a plane to NYC except quicker. Let us say a child
>>> molester, attacks a young child in Brussel's and then teleports to NYC to
>>> escape. Whilst in NYC the molester from Brussels molests two other young
>>> children before he is captured. At this point should we hear the NYC
>>> Molester saying. "That was not me! The Brussels molester died whilst in
>>> teleporting (by necessity). At this point should a jury even care?
>>>
>>> It does get fun if 300 versions of Stalin are produced, and only 298 of
>>> the
>>> clones commit mass murder post teleporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
>>> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 6:15 pm
>>> Subject: crime and duplication machines
>>>
>>> My suspicion is that "personal identity" is a human concept that is
>>> evolved
>>> mainly to enforce social norms, and that it only works until technologies
>>> like duplication machines or mind uploading are created. To illustrate
>>> this,
>>> I propose a dilemma:
>>>
>>> Let's assume I murder someone and then get scanned in Brussels, and
>>> reconstructed in Washington. Who should go to jail?
>>>
>>> What if I am destroyed in Brussels and reconstructed in Washington and
>>> Moscow?
>>>
>>
>> Copies should be punished only for things they did in their subjective
>> past.
>>
>
> Yes, and only if there are evidence that they commit it, and it was not a
> dream. I have a heard about some people claiming to have killed someone,
> but left free as they did not succeed in providing evidences.
>
> Your remark raises the question: can we condemn a person who has killed
> someone, but is completely amnesic of the fact (according to the nominated
> experts)?
>

The question does arise practically, since people sometimes do things when
intoxicated that they can't remember. Usually they are still punished,
because they chose to become intoxicated. People who are dementing (or have
other serious illnesses) may be punished less on compassionate grounds.


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Stathis Papaioannou

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