What happens with the (unconscious) nominalists is that you fight the
details while ignoring the categories. I have the least interest in
discussing the life of Boltzmann or anyone. What is important for me is to
stress that suicide and depression is a form of social apoptosis.

2015-04-26 3:07 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <[email protected]>:

>  On 4/20/2015 3:51 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> * once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning.*
>
>
> If it works for them why is it your problem?
>
>
>  That is why modern people put his life at risk in extreme sports and so
> on: short term risk evade from existential vacuum.
>
> 2015-04-20 12:49 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
>
>> The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may
>> preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide.
>> Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of
>> termodinamical dead of the universe more or less.
>>
>
> Nonsense.  He was in poor health and he had long suffered drastic swings
> in mood.  Today he would be diagnosed as bipolar.  He also had reason to
> be  depressed because his ideas were rejected on the Continent.  They were
> considered crazy because it was obviously impossible to derive irreversible
> processes from reversible physics.
>
>
>>  Other people are influenced equally hard, but unconsciously by very
>> long term perspectives that are beyond his own timespan.
>>
>>  And this tells something very important about the human condition: once
>> day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning. that means that he
>> need to live in a society with a plan and to work for this plan, which is a
>> kind of salvation. This is in the constitution of human beings, induced by
>> evolution if you like, but it is there no doubt. suicide means that the
>> person think unconsciously that it can not contribute.
>>
>
> Yes, I think that is more accurate than suicide over thermodynamics.
> Boltzmann's successor Paul Ehrenfest also committed suicide and also
> suffered severe depression.  Ehrenfest was always very critical of
> himself.  After arranging for the care of his other children, he shot his
> Down syndrome son and then himself.
>
> Brent
>
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