How many people die for the conventional energy production? I would not believe the statistical figments. Are e.g. all those people included who died from diseases upon pollution from burning? Can anybody predict what kind of (Fukushima-type) disasters may occur in the foreseeable future and their toll? The environmental toll of hydroelectric construction and propagation? Who knows the radiation-induced toll if Solar energy steps up with all the new metallic products for the cells? The 'serving' industries must be accountable in a statistical toll of the product industry! Did the statistics include the preparatory processes for the proper energy production, e.g. transportation, drilling/mining/fracking, metallurgy and the extensive plastis production(s) needed for the energy plant operations? (Usually the electric car propaganda articles omit the environmental toll of the electricity-production, only the reduced 'oil' need is harangued). JM
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:13 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Clark > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:55 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, Fukushima, Sellafield, Hiroshima, Bikini > atoll, Marshall Islands etc. (OK, maybe I shouldn't have been making jokes > about this...) > > > > That's fine I like jokes, but lets see how many people die to produce a > trillion kilowatt hours of electricity for various energy sources: > > > > I like jokes as well… we have something in common. I also like honesty. > The 90 figure you claim for nuclear is willfully ignoring the full scope > of the long term impact of that accident. > > Quoting directly from the 2005 WHO report on Chernobyl accident “*5 > SEPTEMBER 2005 | GENEVA -* A total of up to 4000 people could eventually > die of radiation exposure from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (NPP) > accident nearly 20 years ago, an international team of more than 100 > scientists has concluded.” The Russian, Ukrainian, Belarussian Academies > of science have all published mortality figures are by the far higher than > the figure of 4000 that the WHO has settled on. For example: data, based on > Belarus national cancer statistics, predicts approximately 270,000 cancers > and 93,000 fatal cancer cases caused by Chernobyl. > > Chris > > > > For coal 170.000 people die. > > > > For oil 36,000 people die > > > > For biofuel 24,000 people die > > > > For natural gas 4000 people die > > > > For hydroelectric 1400 people die > > > > For solar 440 people die > > > > For wind 140 people die > > > > For nuclear 90 people die. > > > > John K Clark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

