On Sat, Jun 6, 2015  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>> An event is just a place and a time; are you saying that mathematics is
>> incapable of handling 4 coordinates?
>
>
> > Of course, applied mathematics exists, and you can represent event in
> mathematics, but you shopuld not confuse something (a physical event) and
> its mathematical representation.
>

I am not confusing that but I think sometimes you might be confusing a
physical thing with the language (mathematics) the descriptive
representation of the thing is presented in. Or maybe not, maybe you're
right and mathematics is more than just a language and is more fundamental
than physics; nobody knows including you.

>> but if something requires an infinite number of steps to determine what
>> it will do its not very deterministic.
>
>
> > It is, when you agree to apply the excluded middle on the arithmetical
> proposition, or actually it is enough to believe that a closed Turing
> machine stop or does not stop.
>

Deterministic perhaps, but not predictable even in theory.

>>> Bullshit. I have never argued anything about "comp1" and never will
>> because I'm sick to death with "comp" of any variety.
>
>

>> In some post you argued once that comp1 is trivial,
>
> > ?
>

!

> I remember you said that comp as I meant it is trivially, true, is wrong
> (btw). If you don't remember what you post, the conversation might loss its
> meaning.
>

Half of your theory is true but trivial, the other half is not trivial and
not true. As for "comp"... I have so often heard you say "according to comp
blah blah" that I no longer know what your silly little homemade slang word
is supposed to mean, but I do know it can't mean Computationalism. And now
dear god we've got "comp1" and "comp2" to add to the mix!

  John K Clark

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