On Tuesday, June 9, 2015, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lizj...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> On 8 June 2015 at 16:22, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It seems here that you've snuck an extra assumption into comp1. We know >> that brains can be conscious, and we assume that computations can also be >> conscious. But that doesn't mean that only computations can be conscious, >> nor does it mean that brains are computations. These two latter statements >> might be true, but they are not necessarily true, even given >> computationalism. >> > > I may not have phrased it very well, but comp1 is the assumption that > consciousness is based on computation, and can't be created by anything > else (at least that's comp1 in a simple form - actually, I believe it's the > assumption that at some level physics is Turing emulable). On that basis, a > brain must do computation (at some level), since it's conscious, and an AI > could be conscious given the correct programme. > There are two good justifications for computationalism that I can think of. One is the evolutionary one: that consciousness produces no effects of its own, so must be a side-effect of intelligent behaviour. The other is Chalmers' fading qualia argument. Neither of these justifications make a case for computation *exclusively* being responsible for consciousness. That is an added assumption, and at least in the first instance seems unnecessary. > (And what's wrong with "sneaked" ?) > I was trying to be faintly amusing, but I see that "snuck" may have sneaked into the language: http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g08.html > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
