On Tuesday, June 9, 2015, LizR <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> On 8 June 2015 at 16:22, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It seems here that you've snuck an extra assumption into comp1. We know >> that brains can be conscious, and we assume that computations can also be >> conscious. But that doesn't mean that only computations can be conscious, >> nor does it mean that brains are computations. These two latter statements >> might be true, but they are not necessarily true, even given >> computationalism. >> > > I may not have phrased it very well, but comp1 is the assumption that > consciousness is based on computation, and can't be created by anything > else (at least that's comp1 in a simple form - actually, I believe it's the > assumption that at some level physics is Turing emulable). On that basis, a > brain must do computation (at some level), since it's conscious, and an AI > could be conscious given the correct programme. > There are two good justifications for computationalism that I can think of. One is the evolutionary one: that consciousness produces no effects of its own, so must be a side-effect of intelligent behaviour. The other is Chalmers' fading qualia argument. Neither of these justifications make a case for computation *exclusively* being responsible for consciousness. That is an added assumption, and at least in the first instance seems unnecessary. > (And what's wrong with "sneaked" ?) > I was trying to be faintly amusing, but I see that "snuck" may have sneaked into the language: http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g08.html > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
