On 26 Jun 2015, at 00:48, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Jun 2015, at 00:51, Bruce Kellett wrote:
John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
What about a rock? Exactly the same with a rock, it doesn't
behave intelligently either.
Oh, I don't know. It doesn't get involved in pointless discussions
on internet forums; and standing aloof from such things might be
considered to be the pinnacle of intelligent behaviour. ;-)
Yeah but rocks can be as terrible as humans too,
Oh!, I don't know. Maybe they are better than humans in many ways. I
seem to recall that there was (and maybe still is) a craze in Japan
for pet rocks. They are not demanding, they do not take a lot of
looking after, they are always loyal, and can give endless comfort
to the lonely and depressed.......
with their gravity comfort obsession, and killing many on their
path when coming from the mountain. Yet, nobody has ever suggested
to send a rock to jail.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Why do many people still sacrifice
to volcanoes, storms, and the elements to pacify them so that they
won't do us harm?
If rock can think, it can fall down on purpose, or try to avoid
people, and we should arrest them, and tell them that they have the
right to remain silent ...
I think they will remain silent whether we tell them they have that
right or not. As I said, rocks are in many ways more intelligent
than most humans.....
OK. This fits with the theory of intelligence (which I distinguish
from competence) extracted from the machine, and which basically
define intelligence by non-stupidity, and stupidity by asserting one's
own intelligence, or one's own stupidity. You can see that for
stupidity to exist, we need already some amont of neurons and
reflexive loop. Pebbles, plants and animals are intelligent, in that
sense. It takes to be human to have some stupidity.
To be sure, this abstract definition works for all "protagorean"
virtues (happiness, goodness, wiseness, etc.)
Bruno
Bruce
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