On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 , Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > And I have not yet see a proof that the multiverse is non local. >
That's because there is no such proof, but there is proof that in any physical theory that is consistent with experiment *at least* one of the following must be wrong: 1) Realism 2) Determinism 3) Locality If I had to ditch one (and I do) I'd pick determinism, but I don't know if the universe has the same preference I do. > > Everett wave evolve deterministically, I've never heard of a Everett wave. Schrödinger's wave is deterministic but that certainly doesn't mean the physical world is. > > > Einstein called "insanity" the belief in "God play dice", > Einstein never knew about Bell's inequality, and half a century after Einstein made the above famous statement Stephen Hawkings said "God not only plays dice He sometimes throws the dice where they can't be seen". > > > and about non-locality, he said he would prefer to be a plumber than a > physicist if that was true. > I think Einstein was far more worried about non-locality than the loss of determinism, and the loss of realism would be even worse. You may prefer a universe that has all 3 attributes, me too, but you can't always get what you want; if experiment says we can't have all 3 then we can't have all 3. End of story. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
