On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> in the history of the world >> >> *NOBODY* has ever been able to perform one single calculation without >> using hardware. No hardware = no calculation. > > > > Consult Turing or Church, Consult Fortune magazine for a list of computer hardware companies with zero manufacturing costs because they had no need to actually manufacture anything out of matter. > > > or a textbook on computability, for the definition of computation. And in the entire history of the world *NOBODY* has ever been able to perform one single calculation with a definition. > >> >> >> Once you assume the basic laws of the natural numbers, (mainly the laws >> of addition and multiplication), then, all computations exist >> > > >> >> That's backwards. We know for a fact that computations exist because >> we've observed them, > > > > > Assuming that observation is an ontological criteria, > In other words assuming that the scientific method can be a useful tool for finding out more about how the world works, and that assumption has worked pretty well up to now. > > > that is assuming Aristotelianism, > To hell with Aristotle and to hell with all those damn overrated ancient Greeks! I said it before I'll say it again, Aristotle was the worst physicists who ever lived. And Plato sucked too. > > Platonists believe in what they understand, not necessarily in what they > observe And that philosophy was dogma from the time of the ancient Greeks to the renaissance, and that is precisely why science made such little progress during those 2000 years. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
