On 11 Sep 2015, at 00:13, Pierz wrote:

It's amazing to me that a man of Gödel's brilliance could take the drivel of the ontological argument seriously.

That's weird. Why not taken an argument seriously? Then all what Gödel dead is a proof of the validity of St-Anselm argument in the modal logic S5, assuming some formalization of God in S5. Gödel did take St-Anselmus seriously, but never behave like if we should take his argument seriously, I think he did not, without eleiminating the idea that better attempts might make more sense.

Open problem: does qS4grz proves the existence of the Gödel-St- Anselmus God?



Did I miss something about that specious piece of sophistry? Other than that I'm in 87.5% agreement with him...


In a sense I agree, Gödel did just use the Aristotelian-Leibnizian S5, and would have been more inspired to take the modal logics imposed to all creature wanting to be self-referentially correct (in the absolute and relatives ways according to the intensions (with a "s", it is not a typo!))

With S5 all worlds are accessible from each others, but once you are a universal numbers relative to universal numbers, things get quite relative accessibilities.

By computer science, a lot of that sophistry became interesting question about the relation between a machine and a notion of truth capable of satisfying the machine beliefs/knowlede/observation/ sensations.

Gödel missed Everett, and its computationalist prolongation into arithmetic/computer-land.

Bruno



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